> What happened in my case was the loop in the PD-1173 
> can was about 8.5 inches long (8.5" down and 8.5" back 
> up). It seemed that was way longer as compared to what 
> was seen in other bandpass cans. After reading the 
> theory page on Repeater-Builder from John Portune W6NBC,
> he says it really doesn't matter the size or shape of 
> the loop (as far as the response goes).

Well....  not really. The proper loop length is a big 
deal.  Too small is really bad news and too large is 
really hard to work with.  If your cavity depends on 
re-entrant energy it would matter a great deal how 
big the size and shape of the loop/probe is. 

If the loop/probe length was really out of line, you 
might not get a good return loss (swr) through the 
reactive sections.

> But as you mentioned, the loop length DOES effect 
> the jumper length required.

Quite a bit and it's considered a mostly air dilectric 
element.

> So after taking a few other bandpass cans apart and 
> measuring their loops, I decided to cut the PD loops 
> down to 3.5 inches. This allowed the jumpers that 
> were the same length as on the duplexer to give a
> good match.

Smart move...  and probably the right move.

> In the end, it was a lot of reading, followed by some 
> good suggestions from this group (and recognizing the 
> need for a network anlyzer).

Open thy wallet.... and hold thy breath

cheers,
skipp 







 
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