>  Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> skipp025 wrote:
> > Re: Hamtronics 224MHz Repeater Kits
> 
> [snipped huge re-engineering effort to make a Hamtronics 
> 222 MHz repeater work properly...]
> 
> Skipp,
> Basically it sounds like you had to re-engineer the thing 
> to MASTR II or MICOR radio engineering specs.

Not the same animal really, while both are being used for 
similar tasks.  Just like the first Master II or Micor Conversions... 
someone had to figure out what all the issues were and follow 
up with a working fix. 

In the 70's and 80's, I didn't have the money for a 
commercial radio, but I had lots of time. I learned a 
heck of a lot more trying to sort out the problems and 
figure up a fix.  No one I know of is teaching two-way 
radio anymore...  Like Heathkit was, you could  better 
understand how things worked if you built them from the 
ground up. 

> Simpler to convert one of the others, isn't it?

Simpler wasn't cheaper...  but I understand where you're 
thinking it is the more practial path. 

> ;-)
> What you had to do, sounds like an utter PITA...

Well... flash back to the 70's while disco was on the 
broadcast radio. 

In the previous 224 repeater exammple, I learned a lot 
about rf pick up in high rf areas, receiver protection 
and various fixes, a lot about the Motorola MC3357 and 
MC3359 FM Radio Chips, an in debth look at how squelch 
action works and can be modified in those circuits, how 
many police scanners and other common vhf radios have 
the 3357/3359 chips in circuit, how to build a proper 
rf tight chassis, how to build and align a serious rf pa 
from square one, how power supply impedance can cause 
music pickup & playback through a repeater.... yadda, 
yadda   things I would probably not have run into using 
a semi expensive (my budget at the time) surplus 
commercial radio. 

Motracs were around, but they didn't interest me much...  

> Nate WY0X

Nothing better than servicing your repeater while "Funky Town" 
and "Boogie Shoes" was playing on the shop fm broadcast radio. 

cheers Nate, 
skipp 








 
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