Yeah, makes sense. I was just thinking along the possible lines of 
the cap causing the drift... at least I could eliminate that issue, 
if it was an issue..

df



--- In [email protected], "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Dave,
> 
> Keep in mind that the Midland 13-509 was built for the Amateur 
Radio market,
> and the transmit crystals are only specified to maintain .001%, 
which is 10
> PPM.  There is no temperature compensation in the crystal circuit, 
and you
> may make the drift worse by using an NPO capacitor.  If you have 
the time
> and the test equipment to do it, you can determine a crude 
temperature
> compensation by finding out how much the TX crystal drifts for a 
given
> change in temperature, then using a capacitor whose TC has an 
equal but
> opposite effect.  This capacitor will definitely not be an NPO 
type, which
> is stable over a wide temperature range.  In fact, you want 
an "unstable"
> capacitor that exactly balances the crystal drift.
> 
> Commercial radios of the same vintage often used bare crystals 
with a color
> dot on the side of the can, and you were instructed to install the
> appropriate color TC capacitor with that particular crystal.  Not 
perfect,
> but adequate.
> 
> You might also consider replacing the bare TX crystal oscillator 
with a
> small TCXO unit from any of several sources, including ICM.
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of na6df
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 10:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Repeater-Builder] midland 13-509 tx 
freq
> stability... cap change?
> 
> Working on my midland 220 box, with new international crystals. 
> Crystals are standard delivery, not "rushed", so they should be 
pretty 
> stable. They always are in my other rigs...
> 
> Question: Is it worth swapping out the fixed value cap that is 
> paralleled across the ceramic trimmer on the transmit side?
> Mine seems to drift around a bit more than I like.
> 
> I have to assume the stock cap is an NPO type. Schematic does not 
> state capacitance of this cap. Anybody know what it is? RF Parts 
sells 
> NPO's, but is it worth it? Better ideas, if any?
> 
> tnx and 73,
> Dave NA6DF
> 
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