Hi Eric, 

> "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Skipp,
> Interesting account!  
> Will you be performing an autopsy to determine the exact cause 
> of failure?  I'm curious about how a bad cable on the TX side
> caused the RX to be degraded.
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> 

Probably no autopsy... 

I could speculate (sounds like spock...) but without a lot more 
work that I really don't want to do right now... we wouldn't ever 
know the 100% real reason.   I do know it's not the first time... 

skipp 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of skipp025
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again
> 
> Re: LMR-400 Cluser $*%& Again 
> 
> Here we go again... date line Dec. 27, 2006 
> 
> Trouble call to a high level repeater site yesterday... reports of 
> a vhf Motorola Repeater not working well... very poor receive. 
> 
> Test the Receiver and Transmitter Sections for proper operation. 
> 
> Receiver checks pretty good... removed the un-needed problematic home 
> brew (removed from a...) Motorola Motrac Mobile era receiver 
> pre-amplifier filter assembly with a bad internal cable connection. 
> Not the main problem source... just a future head ache. 
> Some improvement in the receiver section... but not enough yet.... 
> 
> Those Motrac era receiver pre-selector amplifier assemblies are 
> another topic/thread. Onward... 
> 
> Transmitter chain/side with matching tpl amplifier and Decibel IMD 
> panel check out just fine. Put it all back on the Wacom Duplexer 
> and the receiver sens "turns to butta'" (craps out). 
> 
> What are you thinking now..? Duplexer..? 
> 
> You would be wrong Mr Microphone. The Duplexer checks out 100% using 
> various tests ... so what do we have left? Well bartender 
> we figure one of the cables might be bad... let's see what we have 
> here? 
> 
> Aaaaahhhh....! someone put an LMR-400 coax cable from the IMD panel 
> to the duplexer. "Shoot that person!" Lucky for Mr LMR-400 man 
> I don't know who he is... 
> 
> So out comes the LMR-400 (appears) factory made jumper and in we 
> place a 1/2 inch andrew superflex hardline jumper. PROBLEM GOES 
> AWAY..! The Repeater returns to normal operation... I finish my 
> coffee (with cream) because the wind is doing 55mph plus outside. 
> 
> Within the last year I/we have had at least 3 episodes of LMR-400 
> feed-line causing serious trouble on repeater systems. At least two 
> of those serious problems have started some x-value of time after 
> the lmr-400 cable was first installed. 
> 
> **** 
> 
> LMR-400 is not allowed on Duplex Radio Systems within my control. In 
> fact I try to get it out of antenna systems anytime I see it... 
> 
> I hope some of you don't fall for the low cost vs performance sales 
> line... unless you have the time and resources to deal with un-needed 
> trouble (self abuse). 
> 
> cheers, 
> skipp
>


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