Mathew, Please advise what numbers are stamped on the crystal that works, and also the numbers that are stamped on the crystal that does not work. It may be that Bomar assumed you wanted a high-side injection, when a low-side injection was needed, or vice-versa. The numbers stamped on the respective crystals will provide the answer.
Also, what catalog number did Bomar assign to the crystal you received that does not work? 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GE Mastr II] RE: Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles Ok, here is the dilema, with the 434.800 Mhz xtal that was cut for the low side injection, I can tune the receiver just fine. Put the 434.875 Mhz xtal in the receiver and cannot get it to do anything at all. It tunes up just fine from a fresh start with the low side xtal. So could it be that the xtals are bad, even though they show the high side frequency is correct? I'm taking the tuning as slow as I can, so as not to go to fast with them. Mathew Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, it is a sensitive adjustment. How can an LO crystal not be either high or low side injection? When you order a receive crystal for a Mastr II or Exec II radio, you must state whether it will be used for high or low side injection. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:31 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Bomar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles I ordered just the xtals from them. One the UHF version, the crystals that I had tuned them up are at 434.850, was neither high or low side injection. The xtal that I put in this radio is at 434.875 MHz with a high side injection. Could it be that far off. Mathew Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:wb6fly%40arrl.net> > wrote: Mathew, Did you order just bare crystals to put in some existing channel elements, or did you send the elements to Bomar and have them compensated with the new crystals? That may be part of the problem, but usually the lack of compensation doesn't prevent the crystal from operating- it just might allow them to drift more than the specified tolerance. Since the Exec II radio has tuning adjustments in both the oscillator-multiplier and the RF assembly, the non-operation may be nothing more than a lack of tuning. If the previous frequencies are far removed from the new frequencies, the tuning may be so far off that the oscillator is not even working. What channel frequencies were used previously? It may be that some components may need to be changed to optimize the radios for out-of-band operation. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mathew Quaife Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 9:09 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles Thanks Chuck, found them in the list that was referenced. So these are correct, why do they not work? Anyone with any good ideas? Mathew Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> > wrote: For high side, high band -- F+11.2/9 For high side, UHF -- F+11.2/27 Chuck WB2EDV ----- Original Message ----- From: Mathew Quaife <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> > To: [email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles Thanks Chuck, that is what they sent me, so your math is just fine. Then there must be something I am missing. I can take one of the old xtals and they work out just fine, so I know the receivers are working. Might I ask what the formula you used was? It's been a long time since I have calculated a crystal freq. so just need the formula configuration. Mathew Chuck Kelsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> <mailto:kelsey%40madbbs.com> > wrote: If my hasty math is correct: 144.81 low side = 14.845555 144.81 high side = 17.334444 434.875 low side = 16.39537 434.875 high side = 16.521296 Chuck WB2EDV ----- Original Message ----- From: "n9lv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> <mailto:n9lv%40yahoo.com> > To: <[email protected] <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Bowmar Crystals Ordered, all the RX not working for GE EXEC II mobiles > Hope someone can help shed some light here. I ordered xtals from > Bomar (3 week wait) for the GE EXEC II mobile radios, 6 for RX for > 144.810 and one RX of 434.875, all high side injection. None of them > are working at all. At the same time I ordered tx xtals for the same > radio, they all work just fine. What might I be missing here, or did > they just cut them all wrong. > > Mathew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com <http://mail.yahoo.com/> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
