ldgelectronics wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've been working on this problem for a while and have not come up 
> with any good solutions. So I'm hoping to find someone that has "been 
> there, done that" with some suggestions.
>
> The issue is that I want to add a same-band remote base to an 
> existing repeater. The main problem is that the remote base is a 
> transceiver and I can't find a way to provide proper isolation 
> to/from the repeater.
>
> Here are the frequencies, but it looks like it really doesn't matter 
> all that much. The repeater transmits on 443.300, receives on 
> 443.800.

Did you mean something else?  That's a 500 kc split....
>  We're using a typical UHF pass-reject duplexer with about 70 
> db of isolation between those two freqs. The remote base will 
> transmit on 444.225 and receive on 449.225.
>
> I can put two antennas on the tower, but my horizontal space will be 
> less than 20 feet.
>   

Did you mean vertical?  That should be plenty of vertical spacing.
> >From the pile of spare parts, I have a multitude of UHF band pass and 
> notch filters. I would also not be opposed to adding something like a 
> pass-notch duplexer if there is a way to configure it to work. 
>
> >From my testing, it seems that the real issue is that the remote base 
> is a transceiver and there is pretty much no way to add anything 
> except notch filtering. Adding band pass cans will filter either the 
> tx or the rx, but not in any combination (that I can find) to do both.
>
> If the remote base had a separate tx and rx, then a band pass can 
> with a notch can (on the repeater freqs) on each side would probably 
> work fine.
>
> Anyone have a good solution?

Nothing beats antenna separation for a cheap way out, vertical is best 
for vertically polarized antennas.

I have a repeater on 443.925 TX and 448.925 RX
I have a remote base on 443.950 RX and 443.950 TX.
There is 100 feet of vertical separation, the repeater is a Micor with 
the AFC disabled.
Link is Radius M120 at 4 watts, no desense either way.....  (that's 25 
kc of spacing!!!)
The repeater is running a preamp, and no it is not deaf....

Kevin Custer

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