--- In [email protected], "Brian Rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I'm putting together a portable "suitcase" repeater for our search 
and
> rescue team, using Icom F121 radios per this article:
> 
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/icom/repeater-mod-for-icom-ic121-
221-series.rtf
> 
> I've got the two radios together and working, my question is: has
> anyone had success with this configuration using two separate 
antennas
> (no duplexer)?  I've tried using two twinlead J-poles, one at the 
top
> of a 25' mast and one at ground level (tried both RX and TX at the
> top, TX at top seems to work better), I've also tried a home-built 
1/4
> wave with four radials at the top (TX) with a 1/4 wave magmount on 
a
> car directly below.  I can hit the repeater with a 5W handheld 
from a
> good long distance away, and get the squelch tail for the 
programmed
> hang time.  However, I don't get any audio repeated much farther 
than
> a half mile to a mile away.  I can do handheld-to-handheld simplex 
a
> good deal farther than this.
> 
> I have permission to use a 5.5 MHz split pair of frequencies in 
the 
> 150 MHz range, which is what I've done all testing on.  It sure 
acts
> like the TX is desensing the receiver.  We ultimately may want to
> incorporate a mobile duplexer (Sinclair or similar) into the box
> anyway just to be able to use a single antenna, but I'm surprised 
this
> isn't working better with two antennas mounted directly above/below
> each other.  Interestingly, Icom apparently offers this 
configuration
> (two F121 mobiles in a Pelican case) as a standard "portable 
repeater"
> product now, and the duplexer is an option, so I'm wondering under
> what circumstances this thing will work without a duplexer?
> 
> Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.
> 
> Brian
> K9JVA
>

Hi,
   from the experiments carried out here in the U.K. on in-band and 
   cross-band portable and mobile repeaters vertical separation is
   nowhere near as good as horizontal.This also offers the chance
   to get the recieve antenna in a "null" from the transmitter.Also
   it might be better to use a crystal-controlled rig for this work
   due to noise generated in the Tx signal providing there isn't a
   requirement for too many channels too far apart (less than 1%) of
   the centre frequency.

    Adam G8UMX



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