Eric, I had the identical issue with this duplexer. Eric Lemmon helped 
me solve the problem by commenting that the arrangement that Sinclair 
uses has a reject notch on both sides of the cavity resonance. A sweep 
of the cavity will show the two notches that can be moved in unison 
around the pass, with both notches moving the same direction as the 
stub is adjusted.

What you are missing is that the first piece of cable from each cavity 
to the Tee is part of the tuned circuit. My cavities were in the 170.xx 
range and the first cables were 10.5 inches. I increased the first 
cables from the cavity on the lower side from 10.5 to 12.5 inches and 
they tuned just fine in the ham band.

Eric scanned the manual for my duplexer and I can send you a copy if 
you are interested.

73 - Jim W5ZIT

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202 tuning problem

I am having an issue tuning a Q202 duplexer. I reviewed the past 144
or so posts regarding Q202 issues, but haven't found any past posts
mentioning the following issue.

The unit was originally on 165MHz. It has the horizontal
copper/dielectric reject stubs which screw into the T-box on top of
the cavities.

The target frequencies are 146.800 tx, 146.200 rx. The high side
(tx)tunes just fine. I'm measuring about 1.5db insertion loss and
80db rejection on the tracking generator. The low side is the issue.

The pass (146.200) tunes just fine, with 1.5db or so of insertion
loss, but reject is an issue. The cavities on the low side act as if
they are another set of high-side cans. The reject rods appear to
tune properly, and I can get 80+db of rejection 600KHz low of
146.200, but no matter what I do, the reject will never go ABOVE the
pass frequency.

I doubt the cable harness lengths would cause this, no? From the past
posts I read, it sounds like if I were running out of room on the
reject rods, then the cable lenghts might be the issue. But my issue
is that the low side's reject is sitting below the pass, not above
the pass where it needs to be.

The duplexer swept ok before I started retuning it.

Any ideas? Would being an inch or so short on the L cables at the
new frequencies really cause the reject to be on the wrong side of
the pass, just on the low side only? The high-pass side tunes fine,
allthough the clear rods are only out of the copper tubes by about 1"
or so.

Thanks
Eric
KE2D
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