Well I will agree with Nate on this one.. The crazy D-Star will only do 
it's AMBE digital and will not pass analog voice...

At least when using a Quantar/Quantro with P25 capability you can set it up 
with CAI (Clear Air Interface)/P25 IMBE and it will do either analog voice 
or P25 digital. You can really piss off the guys running analog when you 
key up in digital. On the other hand you can get some serious interest in 
digital if they really want to play...

Just my two cents....

Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ



At 01:51 PM 4/23/2007, you wrote:
>On 4/23/07, Jim B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I don't know about D-STar, since it's unique to Icom, but Aeroflex (was
> > IFR) has a couple of monitors that do P25, and one of those can also do
> > things like TETRA.
>
>Understand.  This is why I personally think using something like P25
>for Amateur use is better than D-Star, with their "pseudo-open"
>standard.  (Yes, the protocol is open, but no one else in the world
>cares... mostly... and don't build in the vocoder or the protocol in
>test gear, etc.)
>
> > General Dynamics has a couple as well, but they're a bit more bucks.
> > And I'm sure there's a couple more too.
>
>Yep... lots of gear out there for what public-safety is using, like
>always!  Ham manufacturers  trying to come up with their own protocols
>I think screws the people buying it, long-term.  If you can't find
>test gear for it ANYWHERE, why buy it?
>
>Icom's shooting themselves in the foot big-time with D-Star, and
>taking a lot of hams interested in digital comm down their wrong path
>too, in my not-so-humble opinion.  The power of money and marketing.
>
>P25 makes a lot more sense for a properly-engineered system... and
>even includes... wait for it... TALK GROUPS!  (Stupid D-Star... no
>talk groups.)
>
>Nate WY0X
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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