At 4/24/2007 09:50 AM, you wrote:

>Could anybody clarify how one does lower the noise floor of the
>analyzer? It was my understanding that the noise floor is a intrinsic
>characteristic of the instrument itself, and is so to say a
>measurement limit that cannot be varied without external aids (or
>maybe with a low-noise LNA?). But if one uses an external amplifier,
>wouldn't this also raise the site noise floor on the analyzer screen?

Not if the SA is self-noise-limited.  For example, for a 10 kHz resolution 
bandwidth, the noise floor of a typical environment @ UHF is going to be 
somewhere around k*290*10000, or ~134 dBm.  If your spectrum analyzer's 
noise floor at that resolution BW is -110 dBm, then you need at least 24 dB 
of gain ahead of its input to see down to that level.  Fortunately, you 
don't need weak-signal DXer-grade sensitivity, so the 16 dB or so you get 
from an Angle Linear PHEMT LNA should be sufficient.  Just subtract the 
gain of the added LNA from the display reading & you've got your amplitude.

As others have pointed out, you can also reduce your resolution bandwidth, 
but once you reduce it to less than the bandwidth of the signals you're 
looking for (10 kHz for NBFM, already pushing the limit a bit), the signals 
of interest are reduced as well as the noise.  You'll still see unmodulated 
or weakly modulated carriers at resolution BWs down to Hz, but when 
modulated they may disappear into the noise.

>Or if I am wrong, how could one lower the noise floor of the
>measurement in order to be able to take measurements at lower levels?
>Or is the noise floor also a function of the SITE noise level per se?

I'm familiar with quite a few comm. sites in SoCal & know of only one that 
seems to have a minor broadband noise problem @ UHF.  If there's a lot of 
RF at the site you're investigating, you might need a 2 MHz window filter 
in front of the LNA.  A cavity filter with low-loss loops may also just 
cover the 2 MHz span you need, though there will be a little attenuation at 
the edges.

Bob NO6B


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