Nate, This will be my last reply to this thread as it seems to have degenerated very badly.
See comments interspersed below. Nate Duehr wrote: >On May 18, 2007, at 12:27 AM, wb6ymh wrote: > > > >>Your earlier messages struck me as "my favorite controller doesn't >>support site prefixing so site prefixing must be >>wrong/useless/stupid". This message just confirms it. >> >> > >Get a sense of humor or learn what emoticons are, please. Then re- >read the e-mail. > > Your prior message within this thread was pretty negative towards one or more large linked networks. What specific group (or perhaps they were aimed towards all large groups) your comments were directed to I do not know. I have been a member of one rather large group (>150 sites in eight western states that are all RF linked - built out before VoIP existed) for approximately twenty years and from my experience they do not fit the group(s) you were describing. As your post seemed to be very off topic, I did not bother to reply as it did nothing to further the technical discussion. > > >>What Ed was trying to describe to you is not some whacked out idea he >>came up with off the top of his head but rather a fairly standard way >>things have been done for literally decades. >> >> > >So? And again, why do I need to care? > > You joined in a thread where I had asked Bob if his new controller supported site prefixing. If it does / will, it can be considered for usage by those who choose to use site prefixing. If not, Bob's new controller would not be considered by groups who choose to use site prefixing. Not every group wants site prefixing, but to those who do it is a make or break requirement. If you don't care, why make comments regarding both the technical and non technical aspects of the concept? And as you say below "press Delete". Raising the noise floor does not do anyone any good. >Just because "everyone's always done it" doesn't mean it makes any >sense. Hopefully you have something more interesting to add to the >conversation than that? > > > Skip did not say "everyone's always done it", but stated it is a widely accepted method of network control used by many groups for many years. >Seemed like a pretty good conversation to me. I'm still waiting to >hear back from someone about why this feature is important, since I'm >generally curious. Or why users need to command remote repeaters. >How often is something like that really used? > > It important to those who feel it is. Simply that. A personal choice of some amateur networks. On a very large system, it becomes imperative that problematic situations be resolved quickly by anyone that has the understanding and ability to do so. Jamming, intermod, or other problems on a large system would significantly reduce the network usability if only a select few could resolve the issues. On the large system I am a member of, every user (yes, ever single user) is a control operator. Some people like fried chicken, and some do not (I don't). If I did and was going to choose a restaurant to eat fried chicken at, it would be important to me. >>I for one think this subject has been beaten to death and then >>some. >> >> > >You probably should have pressed Delete instead of Reply, then. :-) ><--- Note the emoticon. >-- >Nate Duehr - WY0X > > > > > This started out as a simple technical question to Bob regarding the 7330's capabilities. It then was expanded to include "why" and from there seemed to go down hill (kind of like a Chevy / Dodge / Ford discussion). Skip has contributed much to the amateur community over many years. I believe you are familiar with a software package called theBridge and its utilization within amateur VoIP communities. That is one of his gifts to all of us. He has also designed many other amateur related products that folks out here are very happy to have. His last message was (in my opinion) a statement trying to separate the technical capabilities site prefixing adds to a controller (from some folks viewpoint) from the non-technical comments being made (back to Chevy / Ford / Dodge). Ed Yoho WA6RQD
