Hi Steve, 

Based on my most recent dance with LMR feedline I don't use it in 
any duplex radio system. Nor to I try to use it in any half duplex 
radio system.  The last horror story was a local club repeater. Some 
yet unknown person replaced the coax cable from the circulator (IMD 
Panel) to the duplexer with an equivalent length of LMR-400. 

The mentioned repeater arbitrarily started acting real funky after 
a year or two in operation.  Grunge and reduced sensitivity were 
the owners complaint. 

Much testing of the entire system and after a number of hours the
location (and verification) of the problematic LMR-400 coax jumper 
again confirms another Times Microwave Cluster $%*$#.  

Replacing the LMR-400 jumper returned the system to normal operation. 

I have no clue what causes LMR-400 to become problematic in at least 
two or three ways I've experienced system problems. But some of these 
jumpers and coax lengths are in very well protected locations. So I 
discount excessive heat, abuse and movement as possible problem 
contribution sources. 

The wifi crowd jumps on the LMR-400 wagon because of cost and 
promised spec ... based on what I call the Wal Mart effect. But most 
of the wifi stuff is actually only half duplex operation... with 
rapid t/r switching.  So they don't normally have the full duplex 
fun I've run into.  

Alas the no free lunch rule applies.  Any nearby transmitter can  
cause the LMR gremlin to visit so I suspect some of the wifi people 
are scratching their head with system problems and no clue as to why. 
Or as in many cases out here.. they simply deem the path unusable 
without good reason. 

I hope the LMR feedline works better for you than it has for me and 
(now) more than a few of my customers.  I'm sure the war stories will 
continue over time as people figure out where the shot in the foot 
came from... 

cheers, 
skipp 

> "Steve Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Skipp, I think the trick may be to keep the cable immobilized. 
I have
> it secured to the tower at every rung so it don't flex in the breeze - I
> have seen 7/8 air puncture from slag in the galvanizing on the
tower.  So
> far I have had good luck - I have had LMR 600 up on 3 runs at 100 ft
and 3
> runs at 150 feet for about 8 years now - used for back to back
radios using
> Rayfields NetLink MP.  Also have some LMR1200 but 7/8" stuff is just
as cost
> effective and weighs much less.  Time will tell and thanks for your kind
> warnings,
> 
> 73, Steve NU5D
> 
> 
> On 5/23/07, skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Very nice...  but... "fed with 1/2" LMR 500"
> >
> > It will be interesting to find out how the LMR-500 works for you
> > over time. I hope you don't use the words "cluster [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in 
> > your
> >

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