At 5/30/2007 14:03, you wrote:

> > Discussion here locally is leaning toward 12.5 KHz spacing for what's
> > really needed for P25 Phase I systems, not 10 KHz.  The discussion
> > was also backed up with tests of real-world BER (bit-error rate) at
> > closer and closer spacings (overlapping) by a local Amateur with
> > access to the appropriate P25 test equipment.  In lab testing, 10 KHz
> > spacing and it's effect on P25 BER is not real pretty.
>
>Replying to my own message because I already deleted Bob's, but his
>comment that "D-Star might have an advantage" over P25 because of the
>above comment I made, is only half the picture.  Occupied bandwidth of
>D-Star is lower, but it also *sounds* worse.  The CODEC is heavily
>compressed, and sounds so bad I wouldn't want to use it for day-to-day
>communications...

I guess that's a matter of opinion.  The demos I've heard sound good to me 
- I rather like the compression & feel it adds intelligibility.  Certainly 
much better sounding than the Mototrbo demo on the page recently posted here.

Bob NO6B


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