Andrew is not the only source of hardline hangers. I buy pretty 
much the exact same snap in hangers with a generic brand name from 
Talley for about 1/3 the price. 

skipp 


> Great advice! I know how much the andrew hardware costs... 
> That would bankrupt this project.
> 
> I ended up going the all home depot route with galv unistrut 
> and strut clamps, minis  and my spacing is 8'. I will evaluate 
> the load on the feedline, and add additional supports in problem 
> areas..
> 
> 
> Jeff DePolo wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  > Nope, because like you said, they would draw the feedline into the
> >  > strut, smashing it all up...
> > 
> > I regularly use cushioned clamps for attaching rigid feedline to
unistrut.
> > I usually buy them from McMaster-Carr, but I'm sure they're available
> > elsewhere. McMaster-Carr has them available in "tubing sizes" in
additional
> > to normal trade sizes- 1 5/8" or 3 1/8" rigid line is really 1
5/8" or 3
> > 1/8" OD. The soft plastic insert prevents the clamps from damaging the
> > line. Here's what they look like:
> > 
> > www.mcmastercarr.com - search for 32625T62
> > 
> > However, I wouldn't use them nor "mini's (Minearallac-type EMT
clamps) on a
> > tower, nor would I use any kind of off-the-shelf galvanized,
anodized, any
> > kind of plated unistrut on a tower. The galv on regular
electrical-grade
> > hardware doesn't hold up as long as most other tower-grade galvanized
> > structural steel. Valmont makes good hot-dipped galv strut if you
wanted to
> > go that route. And as always, use only high-grade galv or
stainless bolts,
> > nuts, and other hardware to attach to the tower. Never ever use
any kind of
> > plated steel components on a tower. They will quickly rust and become
> > semiconductors, and you will almost as quickly be banished from
the site
> > (assuming managed by diligent/competent people).
> > 
> > Personally, I'd stick with the real stuff - stainless round member
adapters
> > (hose clamps) or stainless angle member adapters (beam clamps), and
> > stainless butterflies or snap-ins. Do it once, do it right. If you
make a
> > few calls to local tower companies, I'd bet you'll find someone
that either
> > has a surplus that they'll see you at a fraction of the new cost,
or maybe
> > even a few 5-gallon buckets of hardware taken down that might
still be in
> > good condition and can be reused.
> > 
> > As far as spacing between brackets/hangers, it varies with wind
speed, icing
> > conditions, and line size. Here's Andrew's chart, based on EIA-222:
> > 
> > http://www.andrew.com/search/BN_96221.aspx 
> > <http://www.andrew.com/search/BN_96221.aspx>
> > 
> > Most towers around here come from the factory with brackets spaced
at 4'.
> > 
> > And remember, coax "hangers" really aren't hangers. They aren't
meant to
> > hold the vertical weight of the line - that's what hoisting grips (aka
> > Kellems grips) are for. The job of the hangers is to keep the line
from
> > flopping around horizontally in the wind, not to hold the weight up. A
> > properly-installed butterfly is only tight enough to keep the line
from
> > moving, not hold the weight.
> > 
> > As an alternative to butterflies or snap-ins, on big towers where
feedline
> > "bundling" is a necessity due to congestion and to reduce the
windload, the
> > traditional techinque is to install runs of rigid conduit the
entire length
> > of the tower (inside preferably), and then using tie wires (12AWG THHN
> > solid) or "band it" stainless straps to aggregate the lines
together around
> > the conduit, again at regular (4' nominally) intervals. Hoisting
grips are
> > still used every 200' to hold the weight of each cable individually.
> > 
> > Tie-wiring a cable directly to a leg is generally considered bad
practice
> > for a number of reasons. First, what do you do when you come to a leg
> > flange? If you hug the cable tight against the flange, the sharp
edges of
> > the flange creates a spot for it to wear through. If you form the
cable
> > loosly around the flange, it leaves it open for room to move and
create new
> > problems that way. Also, by being mounted to the leg, it becomes an
> > obstacle when someone else comes along and wants to attach an
antenna mount
> > to the leg. It's also more likely to get damaged by climbers and
rigging
> > lines. The list goes on and on...
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > --- Jeff
> > 
> > 
> 
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