Nope you're not missing a thing Nate.  You are right on the money.  I
agree with you completely.  What I'm saying is that it is sad that I'm
considered that "new kid on the block that is screwing up the air
waves with this new fangled junk." and "He shouldn't be allowed to do
that on the ham band because we don't thing it is legal", when I'm
running stuff that is 12 year old technology already.  That's what is
sad, that kind of out look that I've run into, and the attitudes that
I have run into in doing such.  I've seen a lot of the same thing with
the guys that I know that are trying out D-Star stuff too.  Enough
with the bitching as we all know hams are way too good at that and
back to the subject of helping people here.

What is the info that someone was looking for on the Quantars?  I know
the control boards and outputs are the same between the different band
splits so if that's what someone needs let me know regardless of the band.

T.J.

PS the $2000 dollars was with blown PA that I repaired myself.  Kind
of a common problem.  There is a trace that over heats and burns up. 
$3000 is a more common price.  They have had two more years of
depreciation since then though.  (There are two other club machines in
 the state that I know of that are running Quantars that were donated
to them, but they don't or won't run them mixed mode, sad!)


--- In [email protected], Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:04 PM, kc8lts wrote:
 
Bob M. wrote: "These stations are relatively new, so finding one in a
ham's price range is very unlikely."  You know that's sad.  As most
repeaters are club run and the clubs should want to run good equipment
for their repeaters and they should have some money from their members
and be able to spread the cost out.  Quantars have been out since at
least 1995.  I have some at work that I service that are dated that
old.  That's 12 years old already.  I've seen a number of them for
sale for about $2000 dollars.  I know quite a few hams that will spend
that much on a single HF rig, or even more.  I guess it depends where
your priorities are.  I want to know what happened to testing new
things and ways in ham radio?
 
> Huh?  "Trying new things" now means buying a 12 year old commercial  
> repeater and typing a ham frequency into it from the manufacturer's  
> programming software?
> 
> I think I missed something there?  I saw that you're running dual- 
> mode analog/P25 in there, but if just turning on a new mode is  
> "trying something new"...?
> 
> That's just using the technology someone else tried when it was 
> new...
> 
> And if you're finding a ready supply of $2000 Quantars, I'd love to  
> know where.  I've been seeing $2000 or lower MSF-5000's, but not  
> really Quantars.  More like $3000, minimum.
> 
> Still, I think I understand your points, but turning on P25 isn't  
> exactly "experimentation" at this point for anyone BUT hams... we're  
> beyond "behind the times" at this point.
> 
> --
> Nate Duehr, WY0X
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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