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Mike WA6ILQ

At 11:54 AM 07/13/07, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>This is good info.  I know many need this type of info.  Here in 
>Florida where we have lots of sun most of the year a number of Hams 
>are interested in solar for emergency use as well as saving one the 
>electric bill.  Remote repeater sites is another I hear about.
>
>Are there any web sites on things like the chargers, panels, etc you 
>can give???
>
>Many need info on the batteries and charging and yep I can see when 
>the repeater transmits it would look to the charger as if the 
>batteries needed charging.  For the life of the battery the charging 
>is very important.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>
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> >From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Date: 2007/07/13 Fri PM 12:36:54 CDT
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Power
>
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >The SunWize installation instructions specifically warn against grounding
> >the system (panels, battery, or radio) at more than one point, since to do
> >so will short out one or more current sensors.  Inasmuch as the metal parts
> >of the antenna are always grounded for lightning protection, that means that
> >it is the radio that must have its negative terminal grounded.
> >
> >There is no reason to ground any other component in the system.  The solar
> >panel output terminals are always floating with respect to the mounting
> >frame, for exactly this reason.  The mounting frame can be grounded for
> >lightning protection.
> >
> >Solar power is quite pervasive in Europe, particularly in Sweden, Germany,
> >and Finland- where many solar power components are manufactured.  In some
> >countries, it is common to ground the positive terminal.  In order to make
> >such components work in other countries, certain precautions must be taken.
> >Follow the instructions packed with the charge controller to the letter, and
> >don't risk damaging an expensive part by assuming that it's okay to ground
> >the circuit at more than one point.
> >
> >Most of the troublesome solar-powered repeaters that I know about have
> >failed for obvious reasons.  One was installed with the solar panel
> >connected directly to the battery, without a charge controller.  The battery
> >failed in one year due to overcharging.  Another solar-powered repeater
> >failed because the owner connected the radio directly to the battery instead
> >of to the charge controller's load terminals.  In this case, the charge
> >controller had no way to determine the battery's state of charge.
> >
> >I could cite several more examples, but I hope I've made my point:  Use a
> >good quality solar charge controller, and make all wiring exactly per the
> >instructions packed with it.
> >
> >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [email protected]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
> >Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:24 AM
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Power
> >
> >Eric,
> >
> >On the solar panel negative lead could you ground the negative of the
> >battery, but make sure the solar panel terminals, both pos and neg, are not
> >grounded??? The solar panel and charger would be floating on their own with
> >the combination output connected to the battery with the pos to pos and neg
> >to neg of the battery, but it grounded.
> >
> >73, ron, n9ee/r
> >
> >>From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> >
> >>Date: 2007/07/13 Fri AM 11:08:10 CDT
> >>To: [email protected]
> ><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Power
> >
> >>
> >>Tim,
> >>
> >>I have a commercial UHF repeater that has been operating 24/7 on a mountain
> >>ridge since January 2003. It uses two Siemens 75 watt solar panels in
> >>parallel, two Concorde 105 AH SLA batteries in parallel, a SunWize Steca
> >>charge controller, and a Motorola R1225 45 watt radio. A Celwave PD696-1-2
> >>duplexer feeds a Decibel Products DB408 aluminum dipole antenna.
> >>
> >>Perhaps the best advice I can offer is to properly apply the solar power
> >>components. The solar panel should be large enough supply at least eight
> >>times the standby current required by the repeater equipment, and the
> >>battery should be a sealed lead-acid type both for safety and longevity and
> >>of a capacity sufficient to run the repeater for at least two days with no
> >>input from the solar panel. Finally, use a commercial solar charge
> >>controller to manage your power flow. Your load should connect to the
> >>charge controller and not to the battery. Some charge controllers have
> >>current sensors in the negative lead, so you may need to ensure that there
> >>are no connections to ground except at the load circuit. Since the antenna
> >>cable shield is connected to ground, you cannot ground the negative poles
> >of
> >>either the battery or the solar panel.
> >>
> >>73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected]
> ><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>[mailto:[email protected]
> ><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 6:47 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> ><mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Solar Power
> >>
> >>I have a site located that I would like to install a 220 Ham Repeater
> >>but there is no electrical power. I don't know the first thing about
> >>solar power but would like to consider this project for my first solar
> >>powered repeater. I would appreciate any links, tips, suggestions, or
> >>information about solar power for repeater use. I have looked at a
> >>couple of web sites but I know there are hundreds of solar powered
> >>sites around the country and I figured that this group would have the
> >>experience to point me in the right direction for research or purchase
> >>of equipment. If you would like to send off group, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ><mailto:kk4wh%40yahoo.com>
> >><mailto:kk4wh%40yahoo.com> will
> >>get to me. Thanks in advance for the help.
> >>
> >>Tim, KK4WH
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Ron Wright, N9EE
> >727-376-6575
> >MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
> >Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
> >No tone, all are welcome.
> >
> >
>
>
>Ron Wright, N9EE
>727-376-6575
>MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
>Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
>No tone, all are welcome.
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