On Jul 14, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Eric Lemmon wrote:

> Mike and Nate,
>
> Almost every URL that is posted with "http" in front get duplicated,
> regardless of the "<" and ">" characters.

Duplicated?  Never seen that here, ever.  That's a mail client  
problem, not the sender's problem, if the sender only typed it once.

> To prevent that, simply delete the "http-colon-slash-slash" and  
> begin the
> URL with "www" and enclose the entire URL in "<" and ">"  
> characters.  The
> "http-colon-slash-slash" is unnecessary and causes some email  
> clients to
> return a duplicate.

It's NOT a URL without http:// -- see the URL specifications.  Just  
because browsers allow it by defaulting to looking for http services  
by default, doesn't make it a URL.

> A Tiny URL is an easy way to avoid broken links due to word wrap.

Tiny URL is a hack to fix problems with mail clients.  I almost  
mentioned it in my last post -- figuring that someone would mention it.

As mentioned before, folks can fix it with a few keystrokes in broken  
mail clients.

Leaving it normal encourages (indirectly) movement away from broken  
badly-written mail clients that attempt to support clicking on URL's  
and do it improperly.

I provide the URL to things, sometimes remembering the <> trick, and  
if folks can't deal with their broken mail clients, it's really "not  
my problem"... same thing with the guy with a radio that's over- 
deviating out of the pass-band of the repeater... repeater's working  
great by limiting the over-deviated signal.  Must be a user  
problem.  :-)

We had a great debate that went on for weeks about this on one of my  
hardware engineering mailing lists... complete with lists of which  
mail clients were sane and which ones sucked.  In the end, it didn't  
matter -- folks don't change mail clients once they get emotionally  
attached to one, it doesn't matter if it follows the RFC's properly  
or not.  People will be people.

That (mythical, but we've all heard 'em) guy with the over-deviated  
radio "likes how it sounds" on simplex, too... oh well.

Sorry to go off-topic here, but there's an interesting side- 
conversation here that touches the very heart of engineering... fix  
the root-cause problem (mail clients that don't stick to the  
standards) or patch around it?  I like the former, some like the  
latter...

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
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