On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Ron Wright wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Part 97.201 reads:
>
> (b) An auxiliary station may transmit only on the 1.25 m and shorter
>
> wavelength bands, except the 219-220 MHz, 222.000-222.150 MHz, 431-433
>
> MHz, and 435-438 MHz segments.
>
> However, this is from Part 97 dated Oct 2006.  I know there were  
> some changes in Dec 2007 about 2 meters although I did not think  
> the repeater and aux bands changed.
>
> Aux stations are not repeaters and normally used to remote a  
> station or linking items like a split site repeater.  Is this what  
> the stations you are speaking of???  With your posting of 145.xxx  
> with -.6 looked more like a repeater.
>
> 73, ron, n9ee/r

I know that generally Part 97 discussions aren't super-welcome on the  
list, so I'll just politely say that you need to update your copy of  
Part 97.

For better or for worse, the Report & Order that went through this  
year with the CW changes, etc... also included allowing Auxiliary  
stations in 2m.  (Note: Many areas local bandplans have not kept up,  
and may never... VHF is busy and cramming in more Auxiliary Stations  
is retarded when there is plenty of spectrum in 220, UHF and on up.

I argued, bellowed, and generally made an ass of myself for years  
about simplex IRLP nodes (since I'm one of the IRLP server and  
installation volunteers, I felt I should say something, once in a  
while anyway), on 2m simplex which were completely illegal unless  
someone was physically present at the IRLP node and acting as a  
control operator... this also applied to EchoLink and others... up  
until this rule change took affect.

At the end, before the rule change took effect, approximately 200  
nodes were operating illegally in the U.S. -- showing just how little  
Hams care about clean/proper operation anymore.  Even with regular  
rants to the IRLP lists by myself and others... no one cared.

People just wanted to use cheap 2m radios for simplex nodes, no  
matter the consequences.

In my opinion, the impetus to change the rules wasn't really from  
Amateurs wanting simplex IRLP, EchoLink, etc.  It was from the filing  
Kenwood made asking the FCC to make their SkyCommand system legal,  
after they had it out on the streets and realized it wasn't... now it  
is.

Call me jaded, but this rush to call D-Star "not a repeater" and move  
it into Auxiliary operation spectrum is just a land-grab by those  
coordination bodies supporting such a move.  It's a repeater, and VHF  
in some areas is full.  If it is, the "solution" is not to expand the  
space overall that "repeaters" use in VHF.  And the problem's not as  
pronounced at UHF, and is definitely not an issue in most areas at  
1.2 GHz, and Icom makes D-Star for those bands also.

The full "D-Star stack" of VHF, UHF, and 1.2 GHz all at the same  
physical SITE is a waste of spectrum, and should be avoided also.   
Nifty technology and a nifty trick, three repeaters and one digital  
controller and gateway, but ... not smart spectrum management, unless  
the group really does have three repeaters worth of traffic they're  
trying to service?!  (And if they did, they're probably a large  
enough organization that it's time to start thinking about pulling an  
analog system off the air and replacing it with the D-Star... not  
pushing the local coordinators into playing games with the definition  
of a "repeater" just so they can have both.)

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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