--- In [email protected], "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Several years ago I Modified a GE Mastr II mobile to be a 220  
> > (35 watts) repeater and placed an Advanced Receiver Research 
> > peramp with a resistor, capacitor and diode added for lighten 
> > protection. 
> 
> You should indicate the parts are for DC power line protection. 
> Not for protecting the GasFet from glitch events that might cause 
> the device to fail. 
>  
> > http://homepage.mac.com/pseabolt/mods/220.htm
> > In a few years I modified another GE Master II for an 800 MHz 
> > repeater case and used the same pre-amp. (60 watts)
> 
> You used an 800 MHz ARR Preamplifeir in the same type of hardware 
> configuration?  

Typo, I used a ge mastr ii 150 -174 MHz and a 800 MHz base case to hold the 
repeater.


> 
> > A few months ago I did another modification and added and 
> > external 220 amp. the amp is 28 volts and does over 200 watts 
> > but I am running about 100 watts. 
> 
> I see you are using a surplus Uniden ARX-2125 amplifier... but I 
> don't see any mention of how you biased the amplifier after the 
> modification? Do you know what class of service the amplifier is 
> biased to operate? 

I removed the SSB bias, the amp I am using is not a ARX 2125 shown on the web 
page. the 
amp has the same 5 driver boards but uses open air coils in place of the silver 
bars 
pictured. I looks pretty good on the spectrum analyzer
> 
> > I placed a new AR2 preamp on the repeater and after a week 
> > the sensitivity went from .05 mv to open the squelch to 
> > .7 mv. The GasFET in the preamp was gone. I replaced the preamp 
> > with the orginal preamp than had been working for about 10 and 
> > a couple of weeks later, it gone too.
> 
> I would expect a failure to happen unless you're running some 
> serious protection/filtering in front of the preamplifier. You 
> might want to use uV for your micro-volt label... otherwise folks 
> will assume you mean milli-volt or mV. GasFets will handle only 
> so much unwanted energy before they go on vacation. 

The duplexer has 95 db isolation I can't remember the name but the duplexer but 
they are 
copper and bigger than wacom duplexer and I have a 10 diameter wacom band pass 
filter 
between the duplexer and the pre amp.


> 
> > Can you guys think of anything that would cause two amps to go 
> > in this short of time? Is this just coincidence or could the 
> > extra power have something to do with the failures.
> 
> You don't say what type of duplexer, preselector and filtering you 
> have in front of the receiver preamplifier, but it's probably not 
> near enough protection. You also need to address the rf amplifiers 
> bias point and rf output filtering concerns. 
> 
> Rising to the 100 watt plus output level might be only a 3 to 6 dB 
> increase for a lot of folks... but shear quantity increase of 
> possible problematic and/or gremlin RF related to the repeater 
> operation is much more. The no free lunch rule applies and you must 
> pay even more attention to the details versus operation at lower 
> power levels. 
> 
> Pull the modified Uniden Power Amplifier out of operation until you 
> have a handle on what is going on. Tell us what type of filtering 
> you have in front of the receiver and preamplifier. 

I will reduced the power and give the preamp I repaired another try.Thanks

> 
> s.
>


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