Frequency coordination boards have no power to get Joe to take his repeater off the air because he doesn't use it enough.
In reality when the local frequency coordination group won't/can't do anything most (but not quite all) groups will eventually pick the most likely pair and set up shop on it without coordination. If Joe's group is truly dead they'll be all set. More likely Joe's group will come back to life and make noise. If it's a lot of strong noise the new group will probably pick a new pair and try again. Three points: 1. USE IT OR LOSE IT! 2. We need ACTIVE frequency coordination boards even when "all pairs are gone". A frequency coordination council that's nothing more than a bit bucket does no one any good. 3. A dedicated group will aways find a frequency, one way or another. This isn't the place for venting about frequency coordination, but I feel a tad bit better. 73's Skip WB6YMH --- In [email protected], "Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Illegal is Illegal" period. > > Look at what there is to gain by promoting digital repeater technologies > - more spectrum - less interference - better range and better quality > communications - no pots to adjust on your repeater - 1s and 0s.... > > We have it within reach to re-farm present spectrum for a 2 for 1 or > better yield in recovering spectrum by fostering digital technologies, > be it P25 or DSTAR, or other means not to market at present. > > First - voluntary negotiated agreements - ie. Hey Joe, that repeater > you have, you know, the one on the North side of town with the bad > antenna - our group would like to share the channel and put up a new > digital repeater and would like to partner with you - what do you think ? > > Second - Dear Coordinator - Old Joe has an unused repeater pair on the > North side of town. We respectfully request you re-consider > coordination because we the undersigned (hand full of folks) have > monitored this frequency for the last XX days and find little or no > activity - well beyond the alloted 90 days allowed for repair / > replacement, and respectfully request Old Joe's coordination be waived > to the extent we may construct and operate a digital repeater using part > of the spectrum alloted to Joe while at the same time offering to share > this spectrum with Joe. (Sharing a frequency is not interference). > > Third - Dear Coordinator - We have tried unsuccessfully to negotiate > with Old Joe to share his un-used / underutilized repeater pair, and > while we concede the station to be constructed and operational, we also > note a lack of activity as documented herein and propose our group would > better serve the purpose of amateur radio by being allowed to share this > coordination. > > Maybe the wording is not so great, but the idea is to work within the > existing rules to promote more spectrally efficient frequency use to the > end that there is more spectrum for everyone. I do not believe DSTAR > repeaters to be anything other than repeaters, and unless there is a > proper waiver of the FCC rules, should not be placed in any part of the > band where repeaters are not permitted. > > Again, thanks to the volunteer coordinators who do their best to make > things fit for the betterment of our hobby and service, Steve NU5D > moderator dstar_digital yahoo group. > > > MCH wrote: > > I know, but in many areas there are a lot of unused frequencies. > > > > Still, I would never seriously tell someone to operate there. I would > > also not recommend operating repeaters in the parts of the band where > > repeaters are prohibited. Others don't see this prohibition as a > > deterrent, however. The reason? "The repeater bands are full" and there > > is a desire to put more repeaters on the air. > > > > >

