skipp025 wrote:
 > ctcss logic back to an external repeater controller
 >
 > I've been talking with a small number of people off the group about
 > external repeater controller interface logic lines. In specific how
 > many of the external repeater controllers handle ctcss (sub-tone, aka
 > PL) detection, logic, control and selection.
 >
 > To keep things short and simple... let us assume an example of the
 > two most common repeater controller layouts regarding ctcss operation.

I'll see your two examples and raise you one, Skipp.  (GRIN!  Or maybe 2...)

Example 3:

At least two controllers now support CTCSS detection and/or generation 
directly in the controller.

The S-Com 7330 (currently in beta test) offers CTCSS encode, but not 
decode:
http://www.scomcontrollers.com/

The PSE-508 series from Pion and Simon Electronics handles both encode 
and decode, but is built to be installed into a specific repeater, the 
GE MASTR II.  (In fact, their latest software rev offers 4 CTCSS tone 
"community tone panel"-like functionality.)

http://www.pionsimon.com/products.htm

Wasn't there also a Pacific Research controller that did one or both of 
these at one point?  They've always been too expensive for me, but I 
thought one of their boxes did it... maybe... ?

I think putting the encoder/decoder up in the controller is "the wave of 
the future"... if done right, it should make things a lot simpler in the 
long-run... no fussing with CTCSS boards in any fashion, just bring 
discriminator audio to the controller and find a place to send audio 
back that isn't high-pass filtered... done deal...

The controller folks making the CTCSS circuits have to go out and get an 
"edumacation" on Reverse-Burst/STE and all that fun and games though, if 
they want to fully emulate the original manufacturer's boards... I know 
the 7330 is going to have the option to do "either type" of phase shift 
on their encoder, for example.  Not sure if the P&S does RB/STE at all.


Example 4:

Go digital, leave the silly CTCSS behind.  The 70's are calling and they 
want their repeater back!


   Heh heh.  :-) :-) :-)  !!!


Nate WY0X

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