At 10/18/2007 10:52, you wrote:

>Re: Need recommendation for small repeater controller
>
>How much work do you want the controller to take on? Most of the

For this application, just a single repeater - no remote bases.  I do need 
DTMF control of the repeater (on/off) as well as a TOT that can also be 
disabled, & a courtesy beep.

>smaller repeater controllers are pretty basic, many don't include
>an input valid detect line for switched and controlled CTCSS Operation.
>
>A simple D-9 connector (aka db-9 to most of you) to an external
>controller can make the MVP a much "butter repeater". Otherwise even
>something as simple as an orignal Hamtronics COR-2 and an ID O'matic
>cw unit would work very well.

Understood.  As I mentioned in a previous post, I did that this year for 
Dayton using an MP100.  It was still small enough to pack the MVP & 
controller in one suitcase.  Originally I just didn't want to be bothered 
with building another simple COS/audio/hang time/IDer for it, but as it 
turned out it was nice having a controllable 2nd port that I could plug the 
G707 into for linking back to Miamisburg.

This application is a bit different.  Although space is of no concern as 
it's a standard standalone fixed 2 meter repeater, the equipment paradigm 
that was adopted for this system was to have the controller installed 
inside the mobile case (the backup system is a Mastr II mobile with the 
NHRC Mastr II controller; I wouldn't have used it for the same reason I 
don't like the NHRC-MVP controller - displacing the superior GE CG board - 
but I didn't build that system).

I am making progress with the NHRC-micro.  Found one bad chip capacitor; 
replaced it & now it's decoding DTMF again.  Now the audio output is 
getting noisy, & I see why: the audio output coupling cap is a 1 µF 
polarized chip cap, which feeds the MIC HI input of the MVP, which of 
course is biased @ 12 V for their mics.  Care to guess which side of the 
chip cap the plus side is facing?

I know high-capacitance non-polarized caps are hard to come by in SMC form, 
but controller manufacturers have got to face reality in that many radios 
bias the mic input.

BTW, there is a solution to this problem that uses only polarized caps, but 
I've got to run down.  Will follow up if anyone's interested.

Bob NO6B

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