There are only three types of control: 1. Direct (operator at the control point) 2. Remote (operator at some other point controlling via some type of link) 3. Automatic (automatic systems that enforce legal operation)
Remote control can be implemented either over wires or RF or some combination. I can't think of any other possibilities and I don't recall anything in part 97 that mentions any. Direct and Remote control are available for any amateur station, but Automatic control can only be used with certain specific types of stations (repeater and auxiliary are among them). Most repeater trustees use a combination of automatic control (usually a microprocessor based controller with appropriate time-out timers, ID timers etc.) and RF remote control (usually in the form of a separate control receiver). Some trustees are not comfortable with RF remote control and insist on a land-line for control, though it is not required. Many times, a land-line is not available or is prohibitively expensive. I know of repeater sites in use that are many miles from the nearest available land-line. In these cases, RF remote and automatic control is all you can do. -- Keith McQueen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 801-224-9460 On 11/7/07, MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I guess that is where it is - in all parts. You need at least one > control point - be it local or remote, and if remote, it has to be... > > Can anyone finish the path to where it requires the remote control point > to be wireline or radio (on an AUX frequency, not the input)? I know the > rules about AUX frequencies, and the provisions for those. I just cannot > make the connection that requires the control point to be an AUX station > or landline. > > I know there is a specific rule that only ancilliary operations may be > performed on the input. > > I had a guy at a meeting last night who wants to get rid of the > 'expensive' phone line. I told him it was required for control of the > repeaters. He asked where that was in Part 97, and I didn't have an > answer for him. This is why I'm asking the question. > > His answer is to let the control operator drive to the club to control > the repeater. (nobody lives within 3 minutes, and even if they did, that > person would always have to be home. > > Joe M. > > George Henry wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > >From: MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mch%40nb.net>> > > >Sent: Nov 7, 2007 1:28 PM > > >To: [email protected]<Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Part 97 question reference to Repeater > control > > > > > >But where does it require a control link (AUX station) to control the > > >repeater? (or landline ot local) > > > > > >Joe M. > > > > > > > 97.7 states that EVERY amateur station (remember, a repeater is an > amateur station: see 97.3(a)(39)) must have a control operator: > > > > §97.7 Control operator required. > > > > When transmitting, each amateur station must have a control operator. > The > > control operator must be a person: > > > > (a) For whom an amateur operator/primary station license grant appears > on the > > ULS consolidated licensee database, or > > > > (b) Who is authorized for alien reciprocal operation by §97.107 of this > part > > > > And Station control is defined in 97.109: > > > > §97.109 Station control. > > > > (a) Each amateur station must have at least one control point. > > (b) When a station is being locally controlled, the control operator > must be at > > the control point. Any station may be locally controlled. > > (c) When a station is being remotely controlled, the control operator > must be at > > the control point. Any station may be remotely controlled. > > (d) When a station is being automatically controlled, the control > operator need > > not be at the control point. Only stations specifically designated > elsewhere in > > this Part may be automatically controlled. Automatic control must cease > upon > > notification by a District Director that the station is transmitting > improperly > > or causing harmful interference to other stations. Automatic control > must not be > > resumed without prior approval of the District Director. > > (e) No station may be automatically controlled while transmitting third > party > > communications, except a station transmitting a RTTY or data emission. > All > > messages that are retransmitted must originate at a station that is > being > > locally or remotely controlled. > > > > And 97.205(d) states that a repeater may be automatically controlled. > > > > So, taking them all together, a repeater MUST have a control operator, > MAY be under automatic control, and at all times when NOT operating under > automatic control, MUST be either locally (someone physically at the control > point) or remotely (RF or wireline) controlled. If remotely controlled over > RF, the control link is in auxiliary operation, and may only be carried out > in the frequency segments specifically authorized in 97.201, which, as > someone else already pointed out, were recently expanded to include certain > sub-bands on 2 meters. > > > > George, KA3HSW > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

