Mike and others,

The Dallas Semiconductor "Nonvolatile Timekeeping RAM" found in many popular
controllers, including the Link RLC-1 Plus, is Part Number DS1643-150.  The
11-page datasheet can be downloaded here:

<www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/1235806.pdf>

Notice that the "-150" indicates 150 ns access time.  The replacement device
offered by Dallas/Maxim has either 70 ns or 100 ns access time, and I have
no idea if the newer device will work properly where a 150 ns device was
used.

On page 5 of the datasheet is a paragraph entitled "Internal Battery
Longevity" which states that the device can operate for 10 years in the
absence of VCC power.  When powered as it would normally be in a typical
application, the note states that the lifetime can be as long as 20 years.
The battery is not accessible for replacement.

I see that the guaranteed accuracy of the DS1643 clock is within +/- 1
minute per month, and there is no capability to tweak the crystal to get
better accuracy.  One of the Hams in my area is experimenting with a scheme
to use a so-called atomic clock to jam-set the correct time once per day.
With regular synchronism to WWVB, the time announcements will normally be no
more than a second off.  Once he gets this idea working, perhaps I can get
him to write an article about it.  I and many other "time-and-frequency
geeks" think that time announcements should be correct.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

I don't have my Dallas Semi book handy, but if I remember correctly 
the "10 years"
spec was 10 unpowered years - if the Smartwatch was in a device that 
was powered
up the battery was not being drained. But you still had to factor in 
the shelf life of the
internal coin cell.

At 03:44 AM 11/10/07, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>As Kevin said if your 96 has one of the Dallas Smartwatch the 
>battery in some of them had a life of 10 years. It was basically 
>the shelf life of the battery.
>
>Most of the Smartwatch's I've seen used a RAM as the memory rather 
>than a EPROM. The battery maintained the memory when power was 
>lost. The battery could power and maintain memory for the life of 
>the battery which again was spec'd for 10 years although most often 
>lasted 12-14 years. Kinda gets into the area of some rigs having 
>their OS in battery backed RAM.
>
>The Smartwatch was made by Dallas Semiconductor.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Kevin Berlen, K9HX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:k9hx%40arrl.net> >
> >Date: 2007/11/10 Sat AM 02:42:39 CST
> >To: [email protected]
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem
>
> >
> >What version of software is in your controller? With rev 5 of 
> thesoftware, a Dallas
> >Smartwatch was added to the RC-96 to provide a real-time clock. As 
> Irecall, the
> >smartwatch occupied one of the eprom sockets, and the affected 
> eprom wasplugged
> >into a socket on top of the device. If yours has the smartwatch, 
> it maybe the culprit. 73.
> >
> >Kevin, K9HX
> >
> >
> >At 10:10 PM 11/9/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >One of the repeaters I maintainhas been working perfectly for almost a
year
> >since its last checkup. It is a 6m repeater that has a link toseveral
> >other 6m repeaters, and is controlled by an ACC RC-96 controller. Itis
> >powered from a very large commercial UPS that ensures no-breakpower.
> >
> >One evening, the controller went berserk, for no apparent reason. It
> >started transmitting a string of Morse characters on both the primaryand
> >secondary ports: "dit dah dit ... dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dahdah dah
> >..." for about two minutes. It would then be quiet on both ports forabout
> >30 seconds, and would then repeat. During the brief silent periods,the
> >repeater would operate as a repeater, but the Morse string muted anyother
> >audio, once it began. The controller would not respond to my DTMFcommands
> >on either the primary or secondary ports. To make matters worse, the
> >telephone line that gives me backup control to knock down the repeaterwas
> >dead at the hilltop end! I had to make a hasty trip to the
mountaintopsite
> >to take the beast off the air.
> >
> >As a result of this experience, I am adding a dedicated UHF control
linkto
> >give me positive control of the repeater.
> >
> >Has anyone else had a similar problem with the RC-96 controller? Notethat
> >there is no lithium or similar memory battery inside the box that mightgo
> >bad. Oddball malfunctions like this can add more gray hairs than Iwant!
> >Any ideas, case histories, or suggestions will be appreciated.
> >
> >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> >
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