I didn't see a post where he actually tried a balanced pair 
connection with any type of xmfr, choke or hybrid. If he needs 
DC Current signaling we could even show him how to wire up a 
basic balanced hybrid with an optional DC Current Loop. 

In a poor mans method one could even use the low cost 
audio transformers from Radio Shack. True split winding xmfrs 
for hybrid aps are also cheap and easy to find. 

cheers, 
s. 

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> Since the other remedies haven't worked completely, you might 
> file  this away in case the situation arises again:
>  
> You might be experiencing a ground loop even with coupling 
> transformers at each end due to the capacitance to ground 
> of the transformers. A common mode choke, if it has sufficient 
> reactance at the noise frequency, can eliminate the  noise.
>  
> A common mode choke is an inductor with a single core (toroidal 
> is good) and two identical windings connected such that each 
> winding is in series with one of the long lines. The choke 
> goes at the input end with the phasing dots on the same side, 
> i.e., either toward the line or toward the equipment input.
>  
> The "desired signal" current flows in opposite directions on 
> the two lines and creates opposing magnetic fields in the choke, 
> which cancel. The  desired signal never sees the choke and its 
> waveform is  maintained.
 
> The "undesired signal" (common mode) current flows in the 
> same  direction in both lines and sees a lot of reactance 
> in the choke because the two magnetic fields add. Much of 
> the noise is eliminated.
>  
> 73,
> Bob  
> 
> Bob Schmid,  WA9FBO, Member
> S-COM, LLC
> www.scomcontrollers.com
> 
>

>  
> Hi Jim,
>  
> >The cable I used was armored with a spiral copper
> shield over 5  twisted pair lines. I did try grounding
> the shield at one end, and at both  ends with no
> results. Putting caps across the twisted pair and to
> ground  also did not eliminate the problem, but did
> reduce it. I used 600:600  isolation transformers in
> the audio input and output lines at the  repeater.
> 
> >It all became a mute point when the cable got mowed  in
> two during a grass cutting this last summer, and then
> we lost the  public IP address and EchoLink was no
> longer usable. So any more trouble  shooting exercises
> will await the return (if ever) of the public  IP
> address.
> 
> 

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