Oops. I forgot to mention double shielded cable for ALL 
interconnects is an absolute MUST, at least with my duplexer - it 
has notches in excess of 120 dB deep after refurbishing. It doesn't 
take much leakage cause problems when you're dealing with notches 
like that.

Paul N1BUG


Paul N1BUG wrote:
> Jim Brown wrote:
>> I have found that the main problem in using a talkie
>> as the receiver for tuning the notch in a duplexer is
>> the possible leakage of RF between the signal source
>> directly into the talkie.  Most talkies are not
>> shielded at all, and any leakage will cause you to
>> tune a combination of the signal through the duplexer
>> and the direct signal leaking into the talkie.
> 
> Yes, I had that problem as well. When I built my last 2 meter 
> repeater (a semi-homebrew using custom re-packaged GE modules, 
> mostly) I crystalled the receiver for both the repeater receive and 
> transmit frequencies with a service switch to select the second 
> frequency. I also built a simple op amp DC amplifier sampling second 
> limiter voltage at a metering point in the receiver and use it to 
> drive a signal strength meter on the repeater front panel. Of course 
> my custom chassis is very well shielded. The receiver is peaked for 
>   the repeater input frequency, so it isn't as sensitive on the 
> other frequency; but it is good enough to see the depth of my 
> duplexer notches.
> 
> I use an old (cheap!) Boonton 202E generator as a signal source, and 
> put 3 dB pads on the duplexer ports (and a 50 ohm termination on 
> whatever port is not used at any specific point in the tune up 
> process). The Boonton is surprisingly stable once it has warmed up 
> for a couple of hours.
> 
> I've had good luck with this simple setup. But adding the signal 
> strength meter to many commercial repeaters (or worse yet mobiles 
> converted to repeater) could be more of a challenge.
> 
> Paul N1BUG

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