Bill,

I measured the new low-split Sinclair harness before installing it, and
found that the distance between the centers of the tees was exactly 14".
The length of the loop inside the cavity is about 8.5", and this length must
be considered when performing the calculations.  My guess is that a distance
of 15.9 inches between harness tee centers will result in a tuning in the
125-130 MHz range.  Did you consider the loop length in your calculations?

Your comment about the cable on your duplexer being single-shielded RG-213
got me wondering.  Sure enough, the cable I pulled off the club's Q202-G
duplexer was RG-213, but the new harness was RG-214.  I have another Q202-G
duplexer that has the original high-split harness on it, and it is RG-214.
I guess Sinclair wised up to the leakage issue...

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202G duplexer Conversion

Thanks to all who have replied. You have been a great help.


Have calculated  the harness length for my freqs to be ~15.9" when taking
into account the velocity factor of the interconnect cable etc.   Believe it
or not the original cable on our cans is RG-213 and not RG-214. We are
replacing with high quality double shielded(100%) cable.   FYI the harness
is currently $311 from Sinclair.  It will ending up costing us around $100
in parts to assemble our own harness.  Significant difference.   Hope to
have it completed and up on our DSTAR repeater in a couple of days or so.

Thanks again & 73s

Bill - W4RVN



Eric Lemmon wrote: 

        Steve,
        
        That trick works fine for offsetting the harness tee from the loop
assembly
        in the can, but it doesn't do a thing for increasing the spacing
between the
        tees.  The later-design Sinclair Q202-G duplexers come with a
one-piece
        harness that is made up from sections of RG-214/U cable with five
crimped-on
        N tees and two crimped-on straight N plugs.  The tees are made by
Delta
        Electronics, and are intended for one-time, permanent installation.
Even if
        great care is used in cutting off the ferrules, it is very easy to
damage
        the tee during the process.
        
        Although it is time-consuming to dismantle the high-split harness
and
        re-build it with longer cable sections between the tees, the club
chose to
        buy the harness from Sinclair.  It cost about $125 five years ago.
Once the
        new harness was installed, the Q202-G duplexer tuned up perfectly in
the 2m
        band.
        
        73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
        
        
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        From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
        [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> ] On Behalf Of Steve S. Bosshard
        (NU5D)
        Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:06 AM
        To: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]> 
        Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sinclair Q202G duplexer Conversion
        
        When I moved some 155 mhz duplexers to 146 I found adding a type n
elbow
        in places where I could not get the notch to move made just enough
        difference. This adds about an inch without having to rebuild the
        harness, or else a nice way to test cable lengths. Also if adding
the
        elbow makes things worse, then you might want to cut and try. 73,
Steve
        NU5D


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