Greg, antennas affect transmit and receive equally, so the user's poor antenna, 
or the repeater's good one, has no real bearing on alligator/elephant effect.

Achieving balance in a system requires accounting for the noise environment, 
and the mobile is likely to have much more noise than the repeater location, 
due to vehicle ignition and electronics nearby. The noise problem will be a 
bigger factor on 10m than at VHF. 100 watts on the repeater vs. 25 watts in the 
mobile is a difference of only 6 dB, which is probably very reasonable for 
compensating the system for mobile noise and preserving balance.

73,
Paul, AE4KR


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ac6vj 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 5:20 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 10 meter split site


  Hi Steve,

  I have 2 1/2 mile distance between my receiver and transmitter on my 
  10 meter repeater, and have no desense on the receiver. One of the 
  important things is that the receiver has a high dynamic range. I am 
  using a Micor receiver because of its ability to reject nearby 
  signals. 100W is kind of high power for a local 10 meter repeater. 
  From your location 40 to 50W is plenty of power, at that elevation 
  and should give you coverage from Redding to Fresno, and the lower 
  power level will help on your receiver defense. Don't forget that 
  your users will probably be using Radio Shack mobile radios that on a 
  good day can barely make 25W, and there antenna is not as good as 
  your repeater antenna. After all, you do not want to end up with an 
  alligator, but with a balance system that matches your users ability.

  Gregory AC6VJ

  --- In [email protected], Steve Allred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  >
  > I am in the process of building a 10 meter repeater and was 
  wondering if I could get some help form you guys. 
  > What is the "best" distance separating Tx from Rx on a split site 
  repeater without creating a big disparity between "talk in vs talk 
  out", yet still provide the needed isolation? I have tried to 
  interpolate the DB horizontal isolation charts but with only minor 
  success. I also have modified DB pass cans to cover 29 MHz, so I have 
  some pass protection on the receiver and transmitter. Output will be 
  in the 100 watt range to an lowband DB201.
  > 
  > Any thoughts?
  > 
  > Thanks!
  > Steve / K6SCA
  > 
  > 
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