Note also that a 0.005% frequency tolerance is 3 times as big at 450 MHz as
it is at 150, hence the wider channel spacing that has been used on UHF in
the past.

-Bob N3HAT

On Jan 24, 2008 5:16 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Paul,
> the underlying and unexpected contridiction here was not between 15Khz vs.
> 20Khz channel spacing but instead between 20Khz and 25Khz channels more
> commonly found on UHF which as you know is where GMRS resides. Historically
> there's more than enough guard between channels to compensate for slight
> overdeviation or slight drift off channel but now everybody wants to tighten
> things up so new gear is coming stock with 4Khz max dev associated with
> 20Khz channels vs. 5Khz dev which we've all enjoyed for years on 25/30Khz
> channels. Seems a bit odd of them to expect no interference problems from
> +/-5Khz peak dev on a 20Khz max channel but it is better for us users to
> have the option I suppose.
> Gary
> ---- Paul Plack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gary, 5 kHz deviation with a 3 kHz audio cutoff creates a signal at
> least 13
> > kHz wide, counting only the first set of sidebands. That's why many
> states
> > went from 15 kHz to a 20 kHz channel bandplan on 2m a few years ago.
> There's
> > nothing inconsistent in the FCC imposing both limits.
> >
> > 73,
> > Paul, AE4KR
> >
> >   _____
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> > From: [email protected]
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> > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:33 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Gmrs Repeater
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> >
> > I wrote NARROWER GMRS SPECS. I did not write narrowband. After more
> study I
> > see some possible contridictions in the rules as currently written for
> > example, F3E/G3E GMRS emissions (probably the most common) are limited
> to
> > 20Khz bandwidth but at the same time those emission types are also
> limited
> > to +/-5Khz peak dev. I suspect the FCC doesn't really give a damn these
> days
> > especially with rebanding, auctions, and now a congressional
> investigation
> > on their doorstep.
> > Gary
> >
> > ---- wd8chl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:wd8chl%40gmail.com> com> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n6lrv%40cox.net>  wrote:
> > > > Good idea Richard especially since Mitreks are wideband radios so
> making
> > them meet the narrower GMRS specs is probably a monumental task. I
> wonder if
> > a Mitrek can even meet the required frequency tolerance.
> > > > Gary
> > >
> > > You're not talking about the Part 90 narrowbanding? Part 95 (GMRS)
> does
> > > not have to narrowband. The 12.5 tertiaries are NB, but the normal
> > > channels can stay as they are.
> > >
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