On Sat, 16 Feb 2008, Laryn Lohman wrote:
KK> You can use a wire-line tone remote if you're fortunate enough to
KK> have a copper loop up to the repeater site from a control site. 
 
> If I could clarify that statement, wireline in this case can mean a 
> dialup phone line, internet connection, etc., even if brought to the 
> site via wi-fi.  Point is, it doesn't have to be a "copper loop" to be 
> defined as a wireline.

It's possible, but the method I'm suggesting doesn't cope well over RF 
without some serious hacking:

http://www.telex.com/UserFiles/Downloads/radiodispatch/223C_Manual.pdf

I would shy away from using WiFi for control, however. It is half-duplex 
and may have quite a bit of packet loss. I would strongly recommend 
using a 222MHz or 430-440MHz reciever for a control link. 

KK> You can also build a -3dB Wilkenson splitter and feed both recievers 
KK> from the RX duplexer output.

> Yup that will work.  (I'm using TV-type splitters with good 
> results-horrors!).  Especially if you are using a preamp.  Split at 
> the output of it to both receivers.  You will need to take into 
> account the loss of the duplexer rx side at the aux frequency...

You're going to see about -3.8dB of loss using a "standard" splitter, 
regardless of type. You may see more loss using a broadband 75-ohm 
splitter, however you can compensate the loss out of the system by 
re-engineering the splitter (should you choose to build one) or simply 
by retuning the duplexers with a 75-ohm load on the RX port, or using a 
50-ohm to 75-ohm transformer (which can be made out of a coax section). 

The real crux of this is that you have to be certain that your 
receievers really are matched at 50-ohms. Sometimes they don't present a 
50-ohm load. 

It would also be an exceptionally good idea to look at the recieve 
antenna port through a spectrum analyzer to be certain that you don't 
have any strong nearby carriers that would cause a preamp after the 
duplexer to go into compression or limiting. Your users aren't going to 
notice the difference unless there's at least -6dB of difference between 
before and after, so the change only affects fringe area users, and 
possibly HT users. I would skip the preamp.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
                --rly

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