Actually, I was replying to the message you chopped off the quote that
talked about how he wanted a scanner that did SNFM but not trunking.
Trunking is cheaper than SNFM, so any scanner that has SNFM likely will
have trunking.

Joe M.

ocwarren2000 wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], MCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Another point: The only scanners that support the new SNFM channels
> are
> > those that also support trunking. Most scanners support trunking
> these
> > days. You can get a scanner that supports SNFM and trunking for a
> couple
> > hundred dollars. P25 scanners cost much more.
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > > Paul Plack wrote:
> > >
> > > Dick,
> > >
> > > I think you missed his point. If the scanner's microprocessor
> leaves
> > > you tuned several Khz off-channel, making the receiver more narrow
> > > would actually make the problem worse.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Paul, AE4KR
> 
>          No, I didn't miss the point, it's just that others were
> covering getting the microprocessor tunning on channel center, so
> there was no point to my adding to that "pile"!!
> 
>    So, I commented on narrowing the receiver responce accordingly so
> as to eliminate the noise, etc., that would result from a narrow band
> signal in a wide band radio...
> 
> First fix the channel centering, then narrowing the responce
> accordingly.. one follows the other..
> 
> Dick
> 
> Dick
> > >
> > >
> > >      ----- Original Message -----
> > >      From: ocwarren2000
> > >      To: [email protected]
> > >      Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 1:43 AM
> > >      Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wide Band / Narrow Band
> > >
> > >      --- In [email protected], "Jim Cicirello"
> > >      <ka2ajh@>
> > >      wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      > We are going through the same growing pains here in Rural
> > >      Western
> > >      New York.
> > >      > The problems with the NON-TRUNKING SCANNERS, is they will
> > >      not go
> > >      out to 12.5
> > >      > KHz or even lower of a split. Here is an example; one of
> > >      our
> > >      frequencies,
> > >      > 155.0475. Now if you try to put that in your BC-895XLT it
> > >      will
> > >      round off.
> > >      > Another problem is that on the narrow band frequencies,
> > >      they use a
> > >      deviation
> > >      > of about 3 KHz. The scanners, even the new TRUNKING
> > >      SCANNERS that
> > >      will go
> > >      > out to the new narrow band frequencies will NOT
> > >      consistently decode
> > >      the
> > >      > lower generated PL Tones below about 4 KHz. I called
> > >      Uniden and
> > >      told them
> > >      > that I wanted a list of scanners that would do the new
> > >      narrow band
> > >      > frequencies BUT DID NOT NEED TRUNKING. He told me that the
> > >      only
> > >      scanners
> > >      > they have capable of narrow band are the TRUNKING UNITS.
> > >      Now if you
> > >      are
> > >      > close to the transmitter, you can sometimes hear the
> > >      rounded off
> > >      frequency
> > >      > OK without distortion. And if the PL don't decode, use
> > >      carrier
> > >      squelch.
> > >      > Hopes this helps. Join the crowd of the new Narrow Band
> > >      Generation.
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      > _____
> > >      >
> > >      > From: [email protected]
> > >      > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > >      rrath@
> > >      > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:09 PM
> > >      > To: [email protected]
> > >      > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Band / Narrow Band
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      >
> > >      > Our local fire, police and ambulance departments are going
> > >      to
> > >      Narrow Band
> > >      > per the FCC. I was told by one fire department that their
> > >      pagers
> > >      will only
> > >      > work one narrow band. Now this guy must be talking about
> > >      the tones
> > >      for the
> > >      > pagers? But to me wide or narrow the tones are the same.
> > >      Right?
> > >      Going
> > >      > narrow just means that they are taking up less of the band
> > >      width
> > >      for their
> > >      > frequency? He also said that scanners will not be able to
> > >      listen to
> > >      them
> > >      > unless the scanner is set up for narrow band. His wife
> > >      gave me her
> > >      nice
> > >      > Uniden BC-895XLT scanner because her husband told her the
> > >      same
> > >      thing.
> > >      > Some one who is in the know would like to fill us in on
> > >      the topic.
> > >      All EMS
> > >      > departments will be narrow band by April, in our area;
> > >      from what he
> > >      said.
> > >      >
> > >      > Rod
> > >      >
> > >
> > >      Well, guys, it's not all that hard to narrow band a wide
> > >      band receiver, by narrowing the IF frequency amplifier /
> > >      limiter
> > >      circuit string by decreasing the coupling between stages and
> > >      making a
> > >      responce curve that looks like an inverted "V" rather than a
> > >      modified
> > >      inverted "W"..!! Modifying the discriminator depends on what
> > >      kind of
> > >      circuit it uses.
> > >
> > >      Years ago when everybody went down to + - 5kc from + - 25KC,
> > >      that's
> > >      what we did.. On transmit just turn down the modulation..
> > >      best done
> > >      with a Deviation Meter or a Service Monitor..
> > >
> > >      Dick, CET, W7TIO
> > >
> > >
> >
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