Most TVs these days and for couple decades have not real metal in them.  Might 
have 3 prong plug, but the cases are plastic, components on a paper quality 
PCB.  The safety prong on the AC plug might protect one against the metal F 
connector, but probably not due to it is often not grounded for RF and other 
electrical reasons.

Many TVs do not need a safety ground for not much to ground.

Any radiation could come up the coax so it could be a problem.

I have known some to open the plastic case and spray a shielding coating inside 
and also put aluminum foil inside to make a shield.  Must be careful for the 
CRT type TVs still have the 1000s of volts in them.

73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: wb7cjq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/03/11 Tue PM 06:08:02 CDT
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater input getting interference FROM a TV?

>                  
>This might sound too simplistic, after reading some of the other 
>responses.  Is the TV grounded???  A lot of them just have a 
>polarized AC plug, not a grounded (3-pin) plug.  AND, along the same 
>lines, is the AC outlet grounded???  I've found several 3-
>pin "grounded" outlets in our house that have only a 2 conductor 
>cable feeding them!!!  Might be worth a look.
>
>If the TV is looking for a ground, and assuming the dish is properly 
>installed (grounded), then the TV might well use the coax shield as a 
>ground, and at that point the coax shield could potentially radiate 
>the Sony's internal noises right to the roof.  This would be easy 
>enough to check with a VOM and a cooperative owner.
>
>Would it be possible to disconnect everything but power from the TV 
>and see what happens???  Not to get too radical here, but could you 
>perhaps wrap the TV in 'grounded' tin-foil for a couple of minutes 
>and see if that knocks the interference down to below your noise 
>threshold???  That would be quick and dirty, but it might well save 
>you a lot of grief in putzing around with someone else's TV.
>
>Could you move the TV to a different foom for testing?  Or perhaps 
>run an extension cord and power it from a different outlet?  Just to 
>start crossing things off of the "list"...
>
>What about taking a walkie to the TV and "snoop" your repeater input 
>frequency and try to localize the source of the noise?  You might get 
>lucky and be able to determine if the noise is going out via the AC 
>mains, or is actually being radiated from internal component that is 
>trying to be a 2-meter antenna.
>
>73,
>
>Dave.
>
>--- In [email protected], "raritansailor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>> Here's a new one for me. In the same building as one of
>> our repeaters there's a Sony TV hooked up to Dish/Echostar.
>> The repeater is on 147.345/945. When anyone turns on the 
>> Sony TV hash is produced on the repeater input and locks
>> up (keys) the repeater. It does not matter if the sat rcvr
>> is on, off, powered off, or disconnected. The TV itself 
>> is producing the RFI. 
>> 
>> I put a DCI bandpass filter on the repeater input, but no joy!
>> Yes, it would probably help if there was a PL on, but all that 
>> would do is keep the repeater from keying, not stop the noise 
>> if it was in use, or stop it from being "desensed" by the noise. 
>> (or at best the recieve ability dergraded).
>> 
>> Any Ideas how to stop the noise at the TV?
>> 
>> Regards, N3EAQ
>>
>
>            


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.


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