Bob,

Most of these cables use the DTR (pin 4 on a DB-9) and RTS (pin7 on a DB-9) 
lines (Data Terminal Ready and Ready To Send) on most com ports these are 
configured to be high (5-15v). There is not much current here, just a few 
mA.

Here is a good article entitled "Get power out of a PC RS-232 Port:
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/rspower.html

Here is a link to a good universal programmer that I use on occasion:
http://www.cqham.ru/uniprog2_eng.html
This works VERY well and like it's name implies VERY universal. The only 
addition I made was to add another diode to the input matrix from an 
external power supply. This was for those computers with poor serial ports 
and no power available from the radio being programmed. I simply used a 
78L05 voltage regulator instead of the one listed. It's not low dropout, but 
it seems to wok fine.

Good Luck,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:51 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry


> Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables?
> I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get
> power from the serial port to operate the circuitry
> built into the DB9 connector body.
>
> I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two
> computers but run fine on another one and I suspect
> some very slight differences in the serial port
> configurations when the machines are booted up.
>
> If you have links for such schematics, just post those
> rather than the entire image which won't make it
> through Yahoo's e-mail system.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob M.
>
>
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