>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > > "Wacom Products Modified RG-214 Double shielded" on it, 
> > > it is an untinned double shielded cable 
 
> > Are the shields the same exact material makeup... or is 
> > one copper and the other  something else? 

> They are both copper.  

Nothing wrong with both shields being copper... 

> You're preaching to the choir. I think untinned double shielded
> copper is very adequate to duplexer connections. But there are
> contributors aboard who feel that silver plated shields are a 
> better choice.

Normally the silver plated stuff is newer and is reported to have 
less loss. But as long as you keep moisture out of the copper 
jacket double shield it should continue to work very well for 
many decades. I have some 1970's and 1980's vintage copper double 
shield still considered very nice coax that doesn't generate 
pim. In fact the slightly higher loss over rg-214 acts as a 
modest value pad at some very noisy locations. So there can 
be a quite viable place for everything... 
 
> > I've actually seen  that duplexer... :-) 

> Hey you, get your cottin pickin hands outta that cabinet! 

Just a crank here and a screw driver there...  and if you 
looked across the vault I was the 800 MHz community repeater 
in the same room (now long gone). 

> I queried Lloyd Alcorn regarding this in the 80s and he 
> indicated that he was hard pressed to improve the tracker 
> curves using  different TX and RX cables on a 600KC VHF 
> split. The cables  supplied for the sets he supplied me 
> all had identical 12.5 inch  length cables.

But I can actually see the difference in the cable quality 
with mid 90's vintage hp gear... hence the reason my same 
duplexer tx cable is reduced in length by about 3/8 inch. 
Later I could review my notes and let you know the exact 
values but you'd have to change to mil spec rg-214 cable. :-) 


> That's interesting. Perhaps both loony groups are  correct. 
> You can't do much about an impedance mismatch between a 
> connector and an  associated cable because the cable has 
> a fixed nominal impedance. 

Depends on the connector... In some high powered rf amplifiers 
I actually "tune the connector" where required or replace it 
with one that doesn't require any changes. The latter being 
much easier... 

> But the  chassis connector impedance mismatch can be accounted 
> for by the network that feeds it. Didn't Motorola use UHF 
> connectors on their equipment for  decades and their position
> was that the impedance mismatch was accounted for. 

not enough of an issue to get excited about or fairly easily 
worked around.

> I  remember Hank Edwards at Phelps Dodge commenting that when 
> they designed their  sticks, they accounted for UHF cable 
> and chassis connector mismatches in the  antenna design itself. 

can be done... 
  

> K7IJ

See you at one of those flea markets this summer from that 
list I sent you... 

"You need more stuff anyway"


cheers, 
skipp 

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