Skip,

The LM324 has many good features for low level requirements.  High offset 
voltage (2 typ, 7 max, always design to max) and cross over distortion has 
always been an problem with much of what I do.  It having 4 in a package is a 
plus and it has its place.

I should not say it, but I would not use Hamtronics as a source for design 
although I've been amazed at some things they do, hi.

I would not use 324 for audio, but there are other applications.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: skipp025 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/23 Wed AM 10:17:17 CDT
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the  COR-2 circuit)

>                
>> The 555 is dedicated as a timing device.  
>
>When you work with it for any amount of time you come to 
>realize the design and layout is very practical and the chip 
>is now considered an industry work-horse. But it can be 
>used in linear applications... so never say never. 
>
>> The LM324 is a quad op-amp and one of the poor ones.  About 
>> the only advantage is 4 in one package.
>
>When is good enough, good enough?  
>
>•      Internally frequency compensated for unity gain
>•      Large DC voltage gain 100 dB
>•      Wide bandwidth (unity gain) 1 MHz (temperature compensated)
>•      Wide power supply range: Single supply 3V to 32V or dual 
>        supplies ±1.5V to ±16V
>•      Very low supply current drain (700 µA)-essentially 
>        independent of supply voltage
>•      Low input biasing current 45 nA (temperature compensated)
>•      Low input offset voltage 2 mV and offset current: 5 nA
>•      Input common-mode voltage range includes ground
>•      Differential input voltage range equal to the power 
>        supply voltage
>•      Large output voltage swing 0V to V+ - 1.5V
>
>Another well known industry work-horse chip. Sometimes you might 
>not want a high performance chip in the drivers seat. There are 
>many cases where higher spec parts can work "to well". 
>
>> As for use as a timer the 324 needs lots of glue to make it 
>> work.  Not saying don't use it, but for a timing device the 
>> 555 is made for this with lots of flexibility. 
>
>Sure the 555 is an industry standard timer chip, but an op 
>amp section can easily be made into a timer function without 
>much work. The Hamtronics COR-3 circuit is a perfect example 
>of where one chip does both functions very well. 
> 
>> If you want a op-amp I prefer the LF353 for audio and the 
>> LM358 has the rail-to-rail service and is better than a 324.
>
>If one wants to get nit picky over chips... I've got page lists 
>of better audio chip data sheets. But the 324 is more than 
>good enough for many tasks. A big plus is the cost per package 
>makes it a great dollar value. 
>
>I once had to rework a simple op-amp design using the LM-3900 
>Norton chip because it was the only animal that didn't immediately 
>go crazy at the mega watt rf-environment location. Sometimes dumb, 
>stupid and lower performance chips are the more practical or 
>cost effective answer. However, cost per pacakge most often 
>seems to be the person in the drivers seat making really large 
>quantity chip purchases.
>
>cheers,
>s. 
>
>                                                                               
>         


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
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