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A number ask the question if it was LMR400 or 9913 or any double shielded dissimilar metals shield.

Sounds as if this was not an issue.

Your statements are worth saying again.

WACOMs I've worked with did use RG214 for cavity-to-cavity cables.

73, ron, n9ee/r


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On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:18 AM, skipp025 wrote:

One of the things I never saw asked... are any of your
Jumpers the LMR-400 type coax?  One of my LMR-400 train
wreck stories started with a Wacom Duplexer and a jumper
of the mentioned.  The story ended when I replaced the
jumper with rg-214

just curious...
s.

 "blisswheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I really appreciate all of the comments on my duplexer mystery.
I made sure everything was tuned properly and took it back to my friends home location. We put it back on the air and experienced <2db of signal desense with an output of 15 watts. That still doesn't duplicate the results of the dummy load test, but that's a far cry from the 30db I was experiencing here at my home shop. Some of the things I did learn from the experience was that: 1. Though an antenna may only have a 1.5 SWR doesn't mean that the antenna is a 50 ohm match. Using my MFJ ("Mighty Fine Junk" which, by the way work pretty darned good, but not in a high RF environment) antenna analyzer, the antenna that gave me the most difficulty presented an 80 ohm load. The SWR was 1.5. A discone antenna worked the best and it presented a 55 ohm load with a 1.2 SWR. 2. Double shielded coax is a must in repeater operation. I experienced this first hand. I had one short jumper I thought was double shielded and was not which caused an intermittent such that one time it worked into a dummy load and the next it went flaky. Moving the coax with the repeater transmitter keyed revealed the culprit.
Use hardline or double shielded coax.  Hardline to the antenna is very
important.
3. Bench testing duplexers into a dummy load may not duplicate the results experienced with the antenna. 4. In theory isn't necessarily the same as reality. I suppose if you know all the variables the problem can be calculated and identified, but there are a lot of unknown variables when working with RF. 5. The environment your repeater is in can cause you to loose your hair. Yes it is related to the rf generated, no not because of the health effects but because it makes you tear your hear out trying to identify a problem. 6. I learned about whiskers in GE Mastr II receivers... I experienced their effects and how to fix the problem, though maybe for only a year or two, but I learned to to disassemble and retune the receiver. 7. Your experienced Techie RF friends are a great help. I have three good friends that gave me a lot of ideas and helped me trouble shoot this problem. The folks here on Repeater-Builder gave me some good tips which pointed in the right direction as well, for that I thank you all.
Respectfully, Bliss


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