It does state in the regs one cannot put on a repeater for FRS. One can
for GMRS that allows for higher power and requires a license, but not
FRS.
As for allowing simplex repeater on GMRS I could not find a restriction,
but also did not find a reg allowing it.
One point in the following:
Sec. 95.194 (FRS Rule 4) FRS units.
(a) You may only use an FCC certified FRS unit. (You can identify
an
FCC certified FRS unit by the label placed on it by the manufacturer.)
(b) You must not make, or have made, any internal modification to
an
FRS unit. Any internal modification cancels the FCC certification and
voids your authority to operate the unit in the FRS.
(c) You may not attach any antenna, power amplifier, or other
apparatus to an FRS unit that has not been FCC certified as part of that
FRS unit. There are no exceptions to this rule and attaching any such
apparatus to a FRS unit cancels the FCC certification and voids
everyone's authority to operate the unit in the FRS.
(d) FRS units are prohibited from transmitting data in store-and-
forward packet operation mode.
Paragraph (d) might be part of what you are looking for. Note for FRS,
not GMRS.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't worry even the guys on the personal radio website
can't figure this out. No one seems to agree on it.
But it seems like as long as I don't have it ID when no
one is on it then no one here will have a realy issue with
it. Oh wait that was another discussion :)
Anyway. There are plenty of them out there that have been
running for quite some time so if the FCC really didn't
want them they would either be shutting them down or
putting something in the rules that says you can't do it.
The only one I have ever heard being shut down was on FRS
and they are unlicensed.
Vern
On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:51:01 -0500 (CDT)
Ron Wright < [EMAIL PROTECTED] net <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote:
Even though FRS and GMRS share the same freq segment, they are treated
differently. I don't think one can have a base station on FRS even if
using low power. FRS rules would not apply to GMRS and vise/versa.
If it says FRS only the reg would not apply to GMRS just as you said.
I guess for simplex repeater I would feel safe if it stated they were
allowed for GMRS. The FCC regs gives specific rules for the type of
stations (repeater, base, HT, etc). Don't think they say anything
about simplex repeater type station.
73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 1:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In this case it does say that you can't run a simplex or store and
forward repeater on the FRS channels. If they didn't want it on GMRS
wouldn't they just add "or GMRS" at the end of that line?
Almost seems like they want to make sure you don't do it on the FRS
channels so that you have to have a license to use it.
Vern
On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:49:47 -0500 (CDT) Ron Wright < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
net <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] net <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
wrote:
The way the FCC often looks at things if it don't say you can do it
you cannot. Of course this is not always the case. It don't say in
Part 97 one does not have to know the code to get a license. It does
state what is required, but what is NOT required. However, in
commercial serices often what one can do is spelled out and if not
spelled out one cannot. The rules often tell one what you can do
only. 73, ron, n9ee/r
Ron Wright, N9EE 727-376-6575 MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS Owner 146.64
repeater Tampa Bay, FL No tone, all are welcome.
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:48 PM, sgreact47 wrote: "mung_bungholio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS.
"store and forward" repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS. ALL repeaters
and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance. They also must
meet the later transmitter audio filtering . Small base stations,
5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005% tolerance.
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