On re-re-reading the post, I suspect the MA/COM salesman proposes just 
adding an analog trunked group to the system and calling  that group 
talk-around.  Just another group in the trunked system.  Any group can 
be either Provoice (EDACS only) or P25 digital or Analog FM. 

To many folks in the land mobile business talk-around refers to simplex 
operation on the output frequency of a repeater station and operation 
independent of the repeater station.  (hence my earlier post about 
collisions with trunked and simplex operations).

 From what I understand the problem with high noise environments and 
intelligibility is due to the characteristics of the DVSI IMBE vocoder 
and how this noise is treated in quantizing.  Another talk group will 
not help in building coverage issues because the trunked system treats 
all groups alike unless a group by attributes is steered to one 
particular site in a multisite system.  I am most familiar with simulcast.

I believe the problems with P25 digital are exactly that and have 
nothing to do with brand or manufacturer.

73, Steve NU5D


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Not wanting to start a flame war, but since I know there are some P25 
> gurus on here, I am posting this email exchange between an EDACS user 
> and their local representative. Its rather self explanatory, I am 
> looking for comments on the response; specifically, don't P25 radios 
> have an analog mode? All (constructive) comments welcome.
>  

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