Dave,

Mike is correct.  One should use low side for low freq and high for high freq 
regardless of rx and tx.  Completely forgot about this.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: 2008/06/19 Thu PM 02:15:01 EDT
>To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 633-6a-2n notch duplexer

>                
>The "10 dB" of pass loss is indicative of the RX and TX ports are "swapped". 
>Depending on what the duplexer was intended to connect to, ignore the RX/TX 
>labeling and think of the ports as HIGH and LOW. Look at the rx/tx frequencies 
>on the main label to let you know which is high and low. 
>
>Best of luck,
>Mike/W5JR
>
>---[Original Message]---
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Jun 19, 2008 2:04:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 633-6a-2n notch duplexer
>
>Dave,
>
>I've tuned a number of these 633s and had no problems.  They are pretty much 
>notch only with wide pass.  Often get over 90 db notch with little, less than 
>1 db, insertion loss.
>
>I would think you have some internal problem, maybe from lightning.
>
>Wish I could help more.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>>From: catdoogan1969 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: 2008/06/18 Wed AM 01:54:08 EDT
>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] 633-6a-2n notch duplexer
>
>>                
>>hey guys,
>>
>>I've got my hands on a GR1225 repeater with an RFE4000a (Celwave
>>633-2a-2n) notch duplexer and a phone patch.
>>
>>The repeater had some questionable solder problems on the output of
>>the final due very likely to the poorly tuned duplexer.  The solder
>>was a quick fix and repeater has a healthy 30 watt output with clean
>>rx (opening about .25uV).
>>
>>My current problem is the tuning of this duplexer, I started out with
>>decent rx at the dx antenna input but no tx power was passing. 
>>Checked with watt meter at the tx port and had full reflect. Tried
>>retuning tx side and lost rx sens.  I can't seem to get either the rx
>>or tx lined up now.  I can get the notches placed right but the pass
>>portion does not get much higher than -10dB (incoming set to 0dB)
>>usually lower.
>>
>>Is there a start from scratch tuning procedure on these?  I contacted
>>celwave and they gave me a very simple tuning procedure.   My problem
>>is that I do not know what the original frequencies were on this
>>duplexer.  The documentation says that these units are good across
>>450-470MHz but could there be certain frequencies that they just don't
>>work well at.
>>
>>I am using an IFR 1900CSA Monitor with a tracking gen and a 50ohm load
>>on the opposite port being tuned.
>>
>>Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong would be great...I'm starting to
>>think I've over-promised on this unit.
>>
>>Thanks guys,
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>                                                                              
>>         
>
>Ron Wright, N9EE
>727-376-6575
>MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
>Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
>No tone, all are welcome.
>                                                                               
>         


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.


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