I have mounted the elements of a DB-224 directly to one leg of a tower with 
great results.  All elements were mounted in-line vertically, and it provided a 
3 dB offset in the pattern, but the pattern was circular, with the 3 dB offset 
toward the direction the elements were pointed.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Tue, 6/24/08, Jim Cicirello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Jim Cicirello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Reasonably low wind load antenna
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 10:11 AM










    
            


Hi Ron
 
Another Question Please: I was fortunate enough to 
buy a good DB224 without the support mast. After following the opinions on wind 
loading, etc. I am wondering what can be used for a support mast and where the 
masting might be purchased? Any ideas? 
 
Thanks JIM  KA2AJH
 
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Ron Wright 
  
  To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:47 
AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] 
  Reasonably low wind load antenna
  

  
  Tony,

First the Ringo-Ranger does not have the 7 dbi gain. To think 
  a smaller 12 ft antenna would have about the same gain as one the size of a 4 
  bay dipole is not realistic. One note of info...antenna manufactures, 
  especially from Japan, lie all the time. I would not use such harsh words 
  except after years of this junk something needs to be said. I is said here on 
  this board all the time for many know antenna performance here, 
  hi.

Your wind loading limits will require a smaller, lower gain 
  antenna. If ice is a problem the Ringo-Ranger will probably not last that 
  long.

I would recommend going to www.tessco.com, a distributor of 2-way 
  gear, and check thru their antenna section. They have a number of finnne 
  manufactures with their specs.

73, ron, n9ee/r

>From: Tony 
  VE6MVP <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
>Date: 
  2008/06/23 Mon PM 10:28:11 EDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
>Subject: 
  [Repeater-Builder] Reasonably low wind load antenna

> 
  
>Folks
>
>We're moving a VHF amateur repeater to a 96' 
  Trylon self supportingtower.  The overwhelming opinion is that our 
  current 210C4 four bayfolded dipole would be too much of a weight and wind 
  load for thattower.
>
>One comment has been the Ringo 
  Ranger.   The wind load of theCushcraft Ringo Ranger II ARX2Bhttp:// 
cushcraft. com/comm/ support/pdf/ RINGOS%20AR2% 206%2010% 20ARX450% 
20220B%202B. pdfis 
  0.5 square feet.   The windload of the Sinclar SD214 http://www.sinclair 
technologies. com/catalog/ resources/ pdf/SD214- HF2P3LDF(D00S-LSABK) -DI.pdf 
  (newer model to 210C4) is 5.57 square feet.  Although the ice area is 
  17.04 sq ft.  The SD214 has a dbd gain of 7.2, dbi of 9.3.   
  The Ringo Ranger has dbi gain of 7.0.  However the coverage plot in rural 
  slightly hilly Alberta isn't all that much different.
>
>What 
  would be suggestions for an alternative?  
  Comments?
>
>Thanks, Tony 
>(rapidly learning lots about 
  towers and repeaters) 

Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO 
  COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are 
  welcome.



      

    
    
        
         
        
        








        


        
        


      

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