At 6/30/2008 08:48, you wrote:

> > >This is why it is best to put about 1-2 db 50 ohm pad
> > between the duplexer
> > >and the receiver, to help keep the receive side at 50 ohm.
> >
> > And degrade my system sensitivity by that same amount? No thanks.
>
>Maybe I misunderstood - I thought he was suggesting using pads while tuning,
>not during long-term operation.
>
>Still, there are situations where pads in front of the receiver won't make a
>change in usable sensitivity, but will improve intermod/overload
>performance, such as at a site with an elevated noise floor. I remember
>working on a 2m repeater on a cell tower that was under high-tension power
>lines; a 10 dB pad ahead of the receiver wouldn't have changed the usable
>sensitivity.

Around here a preamp in front of a stock Mastr II or MVP offers no 
sensitivity improvement due to the overall high antenna noise temperature 
at 2 meters.  If you calculate the noise temperature of a 0.35 µV 12 dB 
SINAD RX, the antenna noise temperature must be at least 3000 K, or ~10 dB 
above the thermal noise of a 50 ohm load (much lower than UHF, where it's 
typically at or below 300 K).  Rather than put a pad in front of a preamp, 
I just leave the preamp off the RX.  This results in a very IMD-resistant 
setup, since there are no active devices ahead of the helical resonators.

Bob NO6B

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