Bob,

 

Thanks. I have someone with good equipment coming Sunday to check it out
and re-tune as needed. I'll let you know what we found.

 

Re the de-sense, there are two other antennas close by but both are for
much higher frequencies. The three feed lines all go down the same
conduit. We are using 7/8 Heliax and I believe the others are smaller
Heliax or hard line. 

 

I plan to replace the cables in the cabinet when new cables (now
ordered) are ready.

 

John

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:36 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Cables on Duplexer

 

At 7/2/2008 13:07, you wrote:

>Hi John,
>
>I want to suggest that you check the preamp, make sure it didn't get
hit 
>by lightning, or overloaded, also (if possible check you cables, I have

>had some change things happened that appears that the receiver is to
blame 
>but not in all cases) Then check the receiver to make sure it still has

>its sensitivity 0.25 - 0.35uv, or better should be good. I will hate to

>touch the duplexer without making sure that these other components are 
>checked.
>
>Hope you get fix, let us know what you find, when you do.
>
>v44kai.....Joel.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:jtransue%40cox.net> net>John
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>>To: 
>><mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:38 PM
>>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cables on Duplexer
>>
>>Bob,
>>
>>
>>
>>I don't have a way to measure this accurately on the receive side, but

>>just using a signal generator and my ear, there appears to be about a
2 
>>dB loss in the duplexer.

OK, now I see your reply. Don't know why this text wasn't there on your 
original reply.

2 dB is rather high for a UHF duplexer. However, you've only moved the 
duplexer less than 2% of it's original frequency, so I doubt that any of

the cables would need to be replaced as a result of the frequency
change.

You're also experiencing a bit of desense as well. Might be worth 
rechecking the duplexer tuning & loss on good test equipment (spectrum 
analyzer with tracking gen. or better yet a VNA if you can get access to

one). However, there are many other possible causes of desense. The most

common I run into are mixes caused by bad hardware in the near field of
the 
antenna (other bad antennas, feedline, loose tower joints, etc.).

Bob NO6B

 

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