Eric, Yes having UL or any other on one part would not mean all is UL or CSA or any of the other certifications. I would think this would be a violation, but guess not since the UL is on the piece that is UL listed or registered.
Most people don't realize that UL is not a gov certification...UL was, I think still is, a private business that has gotten the seal of approval of many gov and other agencies. Most gov require it for equipment in businesses. It is a good safety issue and looks good in court. Also having UL does not mean the equip works or meets specs except for the safety and manufacturing spec of UL. The equip could not work at all and be junk, but pass UL. UL is primarily certifying the equipment meets UL safety specs...you will not get hurt if used properly (don't open the box and stick you tonge to the solder joints). I've been thru one UL certification and it was a joke in a way. They did do good engineering and done to their spec. Only problem we ran into was a fan was not UL so they wanted to test it to make sure it would not cause a fire hazard if say someone put a screw driver in its blades. We just replaced the fan with one that was UL. As for the colors most of the certification agencies have cross colors such as the green w/yellow strip required by other countries. UL will accept this as the safety ground. The other colors can also be used in this manner. One sees so many power supplies that have all kinds of certifications so they can be sold in many countries. 73, ron, n9ee/r >From: Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2008/07/05 Sat AM 10:53:59 EDT >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies >Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards > >Ron, > >Many people see a UL tag on the power cord and ASSUME that the equipment is >UL-listed as well. Bad assumption! There are a gazillion products coming >out of Asia that are equipped with UL-listed cord sets, but the equipment >itself might be junk and not qualify for listing. Some imported equipment >may have counterfeit UL labels; a genuine UL label has a holographic feature >that is difficult to forge. In any case, UL only inspects the design of the >product and periodic samples; when units are manually assembled by cheap >labor, it is easy for mistakes to occur during manufacture. > >Incidentally, UL (Underwriter's Laboratories) is not the only NRTL >(Nationally-Recognized Testing Laboratory); there are a number of Listing >Marks that are acceptable in the United States, and UL is just one of them. > >Part of the wiring problem may be due to differences in color-coding of the >power cord wires. In the United States, the standard color code for 120 VAC >cords is: Black for hot, White for neutral (grounded conductor), and Green >for the equipment grounding conductor. International cord sets use a >different color code: Brown for hot (think "warm color"), Blue for neutral >(think "cold color"), and yellow/green for the equipment grounding >conductor. > >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright >Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:21 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies >Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards > ><snip> > >I wonder how this happened. I am sure the supply is UL listed (no such thing >as US approved) so looks like something got over looked or a change occured >at RS manufacturing. > >In the US the safety ground and neutral both go back to the same place in >the power panel (fuse box). 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