> Where can you experience a situation where you have 
> line-of-sight, but poor 
> fresnel clearance, and have no communications path (assume 
> VHF and UHF, not 
> microwave)? Is there ever a case?

A couple of simple examples:

1.  If you have an exactly-wrong height as far as Fresnel clearance goes,
you have complete cancellation.  Hard to realize in the real world though,
at least not a consistent basis, but you can get close...

2.  Ducting and inversions that "bend" the signal, either horizontally or
vertically.  I have 950 MHz STL paths over water and marshland with full LOS
and Fresnel clearance that, when conditions are just right, will go from >
1000 uV to below squelch threshold (about 5 uV), about a 50 dB drop.

3.  Multipath.  Signals arrive out-of-phase at equal amplitude.

4.  Antenna pattern issues, nulls, etc.  Probably self-explanatory, and
obvious.

> We've got a link path that an analysis indicates "absolutely 
> no way" yet it 
> works just fine (UHF). The obstructions are numerous and 
> large, but they are 
> some distance from either site. Then I've seen other paths 
> (UHF) where a 
> somewhat mild obstruction causes grief, but the obstruction 
> is close-in to 
> one of the sites.

As far as path obstructions go, diffraction is one of the biggest factors.
The further from either endpoint the obstruction is, the more of a chance
diffraction will work in your favor, "bending" the signal over the
obstruction.  Think of it as a "shadowing" or "shielding" effect - if you're
up close to the obstruction, the shadowing effect is much more pronounced as
compared to if you are further away from it.

In a bit of a hurry, sorry for the short responses.

                                        --- Jeff WN3A


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