Motorola had two factory options that would allow control of the 
MSF5000 station, the DTMF decoder and the SAM [Station Access 
Module].

The SAM card can respond to DTMF, MDC, and other signaling formats 
and is the most versatile. It was also referred to as the Smart 
Wildcard.  Unfortunately, they are pretty rare, although they 
sometimes show up surplus since they were used in certain 800 MHz 
RDLAP mobile data base stations that are at end of Motorola support 
life.

Lacking one of those decoders, a simple solution is to use a 
Maxtrac.  You can do that two ways.  For either case, you need a way 
to get the control function into the station.  For CXB stations 
there is one programmable input line available unless it's already 
in use.  If so, or for CLB stations, an expansion tray with a 
wildcard is the best way to put signals onto the station's MUXBUS.  
For example, to control a repeater, you configure an input 
for 'repeater knockdown'.

The first way to use the Maxtrac as your decoder would be to simply 
connect a decode output from the Maxtrac to your configured MSF 
repeater knockdown input.  That Maxtrac can be configured as a 
receive only radio on a different frequency than the repeater 
input.  The use of a different frequency is a common sense approach 
to supervisory control.  That radio could also be configured to 
transmit back an acknowledgement if desired.

In order to have the Maxtrac decode DTMF you need a small option 
board or you need to duplicate that circuit on a perf board.  Using 
MDC, however, doesn't require anything extra.

A second solution is to use just the Maxtrac logic board and install 
it in the same expansion plastic tray where the wildcard board is. 
Over the air control on the repeater input is acceptable for some 
applications, for example, enabling one of several mutual aid 
repeaters that have overlapping coverage or for other functions like 
enabling or disabling PL operation, changing RF output power level, 
etc.

In this case, you simply feed the raw MSF receive audio to the 
Maxtrac logic board.  It really has no way to know that it doe not 
have its own RF board.

One more trick and an easy way to have several over the air 
functions from the Maxtrac decoder, is to use the Maxtrac display 
driver chip to provide your decode outputs.  If the Maxtrac, either 
a complete radio or just a logic board that thinks it's a radio, is 
programmed for only one channel, its display will normally show the 
digit "1" at all times.  The Maxtrac high tier signaling model has 
the ability to decode unit ID's and to 'alias' them, in other words 
to display a number corresponding to the ID received.

For example MDC ID 1234 could show in the radio's display as "41".  
When the radio decodes that ID, it will activate the display 
segments to show that number.  The extra segments, other than the 
ones that were active for the current channel display digit, are 
available as outputs to drive your wildcard inputs to set station 
states.

The radio can have up to 99 different ID's in its list.  There 
aren't that many unambiguous display segments available as outputs, 
but the segment lines could be configured to address a PROM or other 
simple circuitry to expand the decode capability.

In other words, this idea is based on using something that's cheap 
and readily available - the Maxtrac logic board - to do the hard 
work of decoding.  You could even configure one of these to use MDC 
ID's for a group of users to enable repeater access only for users 
that are in your decoder's list.

You can even do this with a five pin logic board, one you have left 
in the parts pile after upgrading radios to use 16 pin boards.  The 
TLN5172 trunking models of the five pin board will run the 
conventional firmware and initialize fine as conventional high tier 
signaling.  After you initialize the radio, go to the option 
connector configuration and set everything to "NULL".

You can make a pretty clean install if you put the display driver 
chip onto the wildcard's prototyping area.  You can either salvage a 
chip from a Maxtrac front panel or, if all you have as a 2 mode 
front you can order a new chip .  The chip is Motorola P.N. 51-
844373N25 which is actually a National MM5484N or equivalent.

Bob, I can send you some pictures of a completed MSF project using 
this technique. It's sort of a "poor man's SAM card"

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--- In [email protected], "Bob M." <msf5kg...@...> 
wrote:

" I'm looking for a low-cost, simple, multi-digit DTMF controller to 
shut an MSF5000 repeater down for legal purposes. ..."

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