Jim,

I wonder if you are looking at the wrong capacitor for C1.  It is a large
and fat, oval-shaped can that is right next to the transformer, and should
have only two wires going to the transformer.  It is taller than all of the
other capacitor cans, which are round.  The part number should be
8-82705M01.  Did you disconnect one end of each diode before making
measurements?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Power Supply - TPN1110B

Update on my TPN1110 Micor power supply repair. 
It was nice of Motorola to have screw mountings on the CR1, CR2, CR3, CR4.
Which made it easy to 
to check these. There is a forward to back resistance on all four diodes.
How close should the 
resistance be? One is about 100 ohms less than the other three?

I noticed CR1, & CR2, turn on the aluminum housing.

Upon checking C1. Unlike the TPN1110B schematic I have, which shows one C1.
In my power supply,
C1 has two capacitors (back to back), with three wires connected to the
secondary.
Using my old analog meter there is a charge between the two capacitor
terminals. Although, I was 
expecting a charge on both sides, to the ground terminal, & in both
directions. Which was not the 
case. 

There was a resistance on the secondary.

I did notice a arch spot on a ground wire which was in close to the L1, or
L2 wires. There is no noted
ohms on this ground wire to the pin head arch spot. I will position the
ground wire away from these
other larger wires.

Now to determine the proper part(s) to replace.
>From my limited knowledge of this power supply. I will work on attempting to
get replacements for 
C1 & CR1, CR2, CR3, CR4.

Any inputs are welcome. 

73's, Jim Kh6jkg. 

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Sent:20Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:10 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Power Supply - TPN1110B
Thanks Eric for the correction on the model #. 
Why would CR1,CR2, or CR3, CR4 short? I would think they would open, or
one/some would open, not short. 
I will call our local Mot. Repair to locate the these diodes. 
I guess I could work on separate the secondary from C1, to check if C1 is
shorted. 
Thanks, 73
's, Jim Kh6jkg. 
Jim,
It took me a while to figure out what you have. TLN5123B is not the model
of the power supply; it is the part number of the 
Chassis and Hardware Kit in a TPN1110B Power Supply.

If your power supply blows the 10 ampere fuse F1 with no load connected to
TB1 and both F2 and F3 pulled, you have greatly narrowed the possibilities.
The most likely candidates, in order, are shorted CR1 or CR2, then shorted
CR3 or CR4, and finally a shorted C1. If capacitor C1 is either open or
shorted, the ferroresonant transformer cannot regulate properly. Note that
more than 600 VAC appears across C1 during normal operation, and you must
replace this capacitor with a similar unit designed for this application. 

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Power Supply - TLN5123B

I have a Micor power supply, that stopped working. I removed the power
supply, currently no load on the bench.

Back plane fuse - OK
F3 - 13.8v fuse - OK, 0vac, Voltage 4.7vdc before F3
F2 - 9.6v fuse - OK, 0vac, Voltage 2.2vdc before F2
F1 10 amp. opens if left powered on. I am able=2 0to measure the above
voltages
before F1 opens.

With no AC power, I measured the resistance across TB1, (After temporally
shorting to ground to remove any stored voltage, and opening F2, & F3.),
15.3 ohms.

There are not many components before F2, and F3. I guess the next components
to check are CR1, CR2, CR3, CR4.
Although, I have not seen many power supplies with C1 across one of the
secondary, like Motorola P.S.

It would be best to replace all four.
Please send me your input, on the likely faulty component(s) to check.

Thanks for your emails.

73's, Jim Kh6jkg. 

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