Bill,

Thanks for responding with the information about the shield kits being supplied 
by the manufacturer.   With this info I will be able to contact them for a 
price and availability check for our site.  I first encountered RFI caused by 
the early Flashguard units back in the mid 90's.  My company had a site with a 
UHF TDMA rural radio (BETRS) system that suffered high BERT at night.  At the 
time, Flashguard offered a suppression kit to retrofit the strobe housing, but 
that proved to be virtually ineffective.   As a temporary fix, we had gave up 
channel capacity switching from 16-PSK to 4-PSK modulation.   Eventually, we 
just got rid of the strobe and went with an incandescent beacon lamp system on 
the tower. 

Bill



----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Smith 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 1:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Computer noise in 2M Repeater





  We contacted Honeywell/Flashguard and they sold us the kits. In our 
situation, we changed to our backup antenna which is 20 feet below the main 
which is less than 2 feet from the strobe head until the shield kit was 
installed. The shield housing mounts to the top plate of the tower with the 
strobe head placed inside. It's hinged to allow service access. The cable 
shield is a plastic covered metal liquid tight conduit with a fitting that 
connects to the shield housing to ground it. Sorry I don't have any cost info.

   

  Bill

   


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  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Becks
  Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:34 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Computer noise in 2M Repeater

   






  Bill,

   

  Can you please elaborate on the shield housing used?  I have similar noise on 
my VHF ham repeater caused by the same Flashguard 3000 system.  I was able to 
reduce the noise during night operation by reorientation of the antenna at the 
expense of a less than optimum radiation pattern.  The cellular company that 
owns the tower doesn't seem to have any problems with the RFI from the strobe 
lamps, but then they are using panel antennas directed away from the tower and 
strobe lamps. 

   

  Thank you,

   

  Bill, WA8WG

   

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Bill Smith 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:33 PM

    Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Computer noise in 2M Repeater

     

    I have experience with several 451 MHz systems getting hammered by noise 
from the strobe. These were Flashguard 3000 units. During the day when the 
strobe tubes triggered once it wasn't noticeable. At night when the tubes were 
retriggered multiple times to lengthen the on time of the flash, it dropped our 
RX sensitivity by over 30 dB. A spectrum analysis showed noticeable RF from 
below 50 MHz, peaking around UHF and dropping off around 900 MHz. In this unit, 
the tubes are about 6 inches long. We installed a shield housing over the 
entire head and 20 feet down the power cable along with installing toroids on 
the power feed inside the head.

     

    Bill

    KB1MGH

     


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    Now. the strobe problem you're describing sounds like a potential horrible 
electrical problem at the site.  In my experience an FM rig shouldn't be 
greatly affected by a strobe.  It also shouldn't be causing a problem/reaction 
with the WISP gear (it may be causing damage to it!) so I'd definitely find out 
what is going is going on with the strobe.

     

    Good luck!

    Jacob Suter

     








  

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