Nate Duehr wrote:
   We could discuss how utterly
> useless ham radio is these days, or my favorite point recently that
> anyone with a satellite dish, ability to aim it, and an IP-based
> service, can do more communications "good" in a disaster area with that
> IP, an Asterisk box, and some cordless phones to hand to the real
> emergency services folks... 

Until the sat fills up and is overloaded-which usually only takes a 
dozen or so calls, if that.

> 
> I never bashed ALL hams.  I bashed hams who install CRAP repeaters made
> out of RG-58 jumpers, smashed hardline, on frequencies not authorized by
> the head site manager, with cheap ham-grade antennas at 120', a mobile
> duplexer, an open cabinet, no grounding other than a polyphaser, and a
> power supply that looks like it came out of someone's junk box to run
> their Heathkit.  
> 
> Please - get a grip on reality.  That type of installation makes us ALL
> look bad, and you know it.  And if you're touchy about it because you
> personally have such an installation, get it down off the commercial
> site and put it in your backyard where it won't be a mess for others to
> deal with.
> 

Agreed-I know of one multiple tower owner who won't allow ham repeaters 
on his towers-at least not the transmit side-for just that reason. Oh, 
he is a ham himself.

But there is also even more just-as-crappy commercial installs 
too-especially RG-58 jumpers on repeaters...and lack of grounds...


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