He may need to find a set of sinclair Q202's to go with that. I have had a bit 
of trouble with Telewave running a 100watts with only .6 mhz sep. They do fine 
at 50watts or so. Tuning gets very tricky with the TPRD-1554 cans at that much 
power and only .6 meg spread.

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To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Wed May 20 19:33:36 2009
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense on High Power Linear Repeater?



Aaron,

You left out the crucial information: What model Telewave duplexer?

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of atms169
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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Desense on High Power Linear Repeater?

Yes, 80 dB on the duplexers, 100 watts in, that's 10 dB and the preamp 18
dB, so I'm losing 8 dB ??

The sensitivity I believe is 0.4 uV Dstar system. 

I live in Texas where it's flat. I'm adjusting my station to compensate for
the height value. More power good receive. There is a 1000 foot commercial
tower here which would have been perfect, but they want too much to let me
use it.

Model Numbers:
Angel Linear PreAmp 147GNT
Angel Linear Filters 2BP147N 
TE Systems 1412RAN Linear Amp
Superflex Cables
4 Can Telewave Duplxers 600 KHz split (Yes it does 600)

I had thought of adding two more cans and purchasing a new phasing harness
but, someone told me to stop and just add more filters. 

So I'm not sure which direction to go. 

I would like to push more power if possible.

Thanks

Aaron

--- In [email protected] 
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<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , "Eric Lemmon" <wb6...@...>
wrote:
>
> Aaron,
> 
> My CommShop for Windows program suggests that about 88 dB of isolation is
> needed for a 20 watt repeater, assuming 0.2 uV sensitivity on the
receiver-
> which you didn't specify. Bumping the power to 100 watts will increase
that
> figure to about 95 dB. My gut feeling is that your duplexer is not up to
> the task.
> 
> What is the model number of your Telewave duplexer, and of your Angle
Linear
> bandpass filter? Are all of your jumpers double-shielded, with no
adapters?
> Do you have an isolator on the output jack of your TE amplifier? Have you
> verified with a spectrum analyzer that your PA output is free of spurs?
> 
> Since increasing the power output of a repeater seldom increases its
> coverage area, is it really necessary that you run 100 watts?
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> 




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