Serious question: Why is linking two repeaters via RF "okay" and linking via IRLP "wasting everyone's time"?
Isn't the owner also "wasting the time" of the people in the coverage area of Repeater #2 when a QSO is happening on Repeater #1 by this logic? Do you have that many users on 220 out there, that some additional traffic from an IRLP Reflector (I assume that's what you're talking about, and that feature CAN be turned off...) would be detrimental to the locals (who should be able to shut off the IRLP node if the engineering is done right, even if it's transmitting) with a simple burst of two digits of DTMF? What's the beef? I'm honestly curious. Are you beating around the bush and saying you'd prefer it sat with zero usage than listen to particular hams? I won't be offended if you say that many repeaters are overrun with some really dumb people who never put the mic down, but that's no different than 20m SSB... so it's not news to anyone, nor offensive, really. I've met people who like quiet repeaters, and I'm not knocking it. I just find it weird. We encourage "ragchew" on our systems, and always have. Either they're up there for hobby use, or they're just up there... someone might as well be talkin' on 'em. Plus, I have an OFF button if I want quiet, and there's ZERO communications on ham radio that are important enough that I *must* keep a radio on, like a commercial or public safety system. Of course, I say that with the caveat that there's no local emergencies going on... in those cases, any remote area linking would be turned off anyway... To me, linking of any sort, either controllable by the end-users or not, is just a "coverage" issue, but to many, it brings activity in where there was none before. I understand if California doesn't exactly have a problem drumming up activity with the huge numbers of Amateur licensees out there... Just curious why you think a user linking to something they want to participate in, is a "waste of time"? Isn't it just a feature they can use, or not use, as they see fit? I never have understood the passive agressive comments made about Internet linking, when RF linking is "okay" in the eyes of the same commenter? Not a slam on you in any way, Skipp. It's just a curiosity to me, because it doesn't make any sense. Mr. Ed says, "A link is a link, of course of course..." -- Nate Duehr [email protected] On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:17 +0000, "skipp025" <[email protected]> wrote: I pulled off linking two adjacent 224MHz Repeaters. The repeaters are on different 30 mile distant mountain top sites. One repeater has an on-band linking radio (Alinco DR-235) set up on the adjacent frequency. As an example... 224.960 and 224.940MHz. With enough physical isolation, filtering and setup... much to my surprise it works pretty well. The owner wants to now park IRLP on it and waste everyone's time. But they are his repeaters... On toward part 2. s. 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